It depends whether you define "arbiter not being aware of the tiebreak rules despite round 13 of 14 having just ended with the possibility of a tie-brea being required looming large" as 'confusing' or 'SNAFU'.NickFaulks wrote:I missed most of yesterday. Do I gather there were confusing announcements out of Moscow re tiebreaks?
2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March
-
Jonathan Bryant
- Posts: 3452
- Joined: Sun May 11, 2008 3:54 pm
Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March
The Abysmal Depths of Chess: https://theabysmaldepthsofchess.blogspot.com
-
NickFaulks
- Posts: 9255
- Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:28 pm
Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March
Could you point me to exactly what happened? I spoke to the CA about this last week and he was absolutely clear.Jonathan Bryant wrote:It depends whether you define "arbiter not being aware of the tiebreak rules despite round 13 of 14 having just ended with the possibility of a tie-brea being required looming large" as 'confusing' or 'SNAFU'.NickFaulks wrote:I missed most of yesterday. Do I gather there were confusing announcements out of Moscow re tiebreaks?
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a QR code stamped on a human face — forever.
- JustinHorton
- Posts: 10472
- Joined: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:06 am
- Location: Somewhere you're not
Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March
Nick - trawl back over the past couple of pages and click on the various Twitter links.
"Do you play chess?"
"Yes, but I prefer a game with a better chance of cheating."
"Yes, but I prefer a game with a better chance of cheating."
- JustinHorton
- Posts: 10472
- Joined: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:06 am
- Location: Somewhere you're not
Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March
Well, maybe not this one since it's been deleted, but this and this. They don't tell the whole story but basically, the arbiter stated that in the event of a three-way playoff Anand would drop out and then Karjakin would beat Caruana on most wins.
After much social media agitation on the lines of there being no basis for this anywhere in the regulations, the arbiter changed his mind, i.e. it was claimed that his true meaning had been "lost in translation".
After much social media agitation on the lines of there being no basis for this anywhere in the regulations, the arbiter changed his mind, i.e. it was claimed that his true meaning had been "lost in translation".
"Do you play chess?"
"Yes, but I prefer a game with a better chance of cheating."
"Yes, but I prefer a game with a better chance of cheating."
-
NickFaulks
- Posts: 9255
- Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:28 pm
Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March
I still need to be convinced that he actually said it. To whom did he say it?JustinHorton wrote:but basically, the arbiter stated that in the event of a three-way playoff Anand would drop out and then Karjakin would beat Caruana on most wins.
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a QR code stamped on a human face — forever.
- JustinHorton
- Posts: 10472
- Joined: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:06 am
- Location: Somewhere you're not
Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March
That question might be better addressed to ChessVibes?
"Do you play chess?"
"Yes, but I prefer a game with a better chance of cheating."
"Yes, but I prefer a game with a better chance of cheating."
-
LawrenceCooper
- Posts: 8661
- Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:13 am
Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March
The official broadcast has at least two games mixed up. On the video you can see Karjakin-Caruana is a Sicilian but on the live games it's a Catalan 
- JustinHorton
- Posts: 10472
- Joined: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:06 am
- Location: Somewhere you're not
Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March
We have a Catalan!Jonathan Bryant wrote:Catalan was about half of the London candidates it felt like.
And a Classical Sicilian, a rare bird these days.
"Do you play chess?"
"Yes, but I prefer a game with a better chance of cheating."
"Yes, but I prefer a game with a better chance of cheating."
-
Martin Benjamin
- Posts: 308
- Joined: Sun Oct 28, 2007 8:54 pm
Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March
The board names are wrong on the official site. According to the commentators, Karjakin - Caruana is a Sicilian, but the game with their names showing is a Catalan. I don't like being critical, but in view of the fuss about transmission rights (which I haven't had time to follow closely), that is poor.
-
NickFaulks
- Posts: 9255
- Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:28 pm
Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March
The question I address to you is why the tweet was immediately accepted as gospel.JustinHorton wrote:That question might be better addressed to ChessVibes?
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a QR code stamped on a human face — forever.
-
LawrenceCooper
- Posts: 8661
- Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:13 am
Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March
Thankfully we have the illegal streams with the names correctMartin Benjamin wrote:The board names are wrong on the official site. According to the commentators, Karjakin - Caruana is a Sicilian, but the game with their names showing is a Catalan. I don't like being critical, but in view of the fuss about transmission rights (which I haven't had time to follow closely), that is poor.
- JustinHorton
- Posts: 10472
- Joined: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:06 am
- Location: Somewhere you're not
Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March
It wasn't. The debate that followed was both prolonged and sceptical.NickFaulks wrote:The question I address to you is why the tweet was immediately accepted as gospel.JustinHorton wrote:That question might be better addressed to ChessVibes?
"Do you play chess?"
"Yes, but I prefer a game with a better chance of cheating."
"Yes, but I prefer a game with a better chance of cheating."
- Carl Hibbard
- Posts: 6134
- Joined: Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:05 pm
- Location: Evesham
-
Peter Shaw
- Posts: 223
- Joined: Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:22 pm
- Location: Wakefield
Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March
Not a single Berlin endgame in the whole tournament...
-
NickFaulks
- Posts: 9255
- Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:28 pm
Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March
This one wasn't very sceptical, though of course it wasn't you.Jonathan Bryant wrote: It depends whether you define "arbiter not being aware of the tiebreak rules despite round 13 of 14 having just ended with the possibility of a tie-brea being required looming large" as 'confusing' or 'SNAFU'.
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a QR code stamped on a human face — forever.