2013 British Chess Championships (Torquay)

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Re: 2013 British Chess Championships (Torquay)

Post by John Cox » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:43 pm

Anyone got any theories about Gormally-Kosten? I suppose 17...dxc3 loses to 18 Nf6+ Nxf6 19 exf6 Bxf6 20 Be4; is that the idea?

Edit. Or 20 Re4, presumably. And I suppose 19 Re4 is the answer to 18...Bxf6 - maybe it's just mate?

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Re: 2013 British Chess Championships (Torquay)

Post by Simon Ansell » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:45 pm

Ben Purton wrote:Dannys game is a definate turn on!!
I don't see anything better than taking the perpetual after 17...f5.

edit: unless 18. Nxd5 is something, with some idea of Nf6+ and Bxd5 to follow, but not sure it's working. Tony played 17..Re8 anyway, which I can't crack either...

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Re: 2013 British Chess Championships (Torquay)

Post by John Cox » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:51 pm

Simon Ansell wrote:
Ben Purton wrote:Dannys game is a definate turn on!!
I don't see anything better than taking the perpetual after 17...f5.
Not 18 Nxd5 exd5 19 Nf6+ Bxf6 20 exf6 Rxf6 21 Bxd5+ and Re8? Or something like that?

Anyway, this 17...Re8 is sneaky - 18 Nxd5 exd5 19 Nf6+ Bxf6 20 exf6 Rxe1+ and ...Qf8, I suppose?

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Re: 2013 British Chess Championships (Torquay)

Post by Joey Stewart » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:53 pm

Well hawkins got out with a draw - what has happened to Terry chapman lately, I remember him being a fairly steady 2200 but now he seems to have suddenly got alot stronger.
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Re: 2013 British Chess Championships (Torquay)

Post by Simon Ansell » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:54 pm

John Cox wrote:
Simon Ansell wrote:
Ben Purton wrote:Dannys game is a definate turn on!!
I don't see anything better than taking the perpetual after 17...f5.
Not 18 Nxd5 exd5 19 Nf6+ Bxf6 20 exf6 Rxf6 21 Bxd5+ and Re8? Or something like that?

Anyway, this 17...Re8 is sneaky - 18 Nxd5 exd5 19 Nf6+ Bxf6 20 exf6 Rxe1+ and ...Qf8, I suppose?
Something like that, the geometry seems to make sense but I still can't work it out, feeling a bit slow this afternoon!

17...Re8 18. Nf6 Bf6 19. Re4, what's that like?

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Re: 2013 British Chess Championships (Torquay)

Post by Simon Ansell » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:00 pm

Or even 18. Nf6 Nf6, can't crack that either. I'll leave it to Danny, I'm sure he knows what he's doing :)

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Re: 2013 British Chess Championships (Torquay)

Post by Joey Stewart » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:00 pm

A relatively straightforward tactic for simon williams to win with - I bet he couldnt believe his luck.
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Re: 2013 British Chess Championships (Torquay)

Post by John Cox » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:01 pm

Joey Stewart wrote:Well hawkins got out with a draw - what has happened to Terry chapman lately, I remember him being a fairly steady 2200 but now he seems to have suddenly got alot stronger.
I think he gave up work!

What's going on in Eames-Ward? It's far from clear to me Chris has enough/any compensation for his various material losses.

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Re: 2013 British Chess Championships (Torquay)

Post by John Cox » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:05 pm

Simon Ansell wrote:. I'll leave it to Danny, I'm sure he knows what he's doing :)
Not so sure; there's been a worrying pause in developments. This ...Re8 is the sort of thing a chap could have overlooked a few moves back when the e-file was full of pieces.

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Re: 2013 British Chess Championships (Torquay)

Post by Simon Ansell » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:16 pm

I've just cheated and turned to silicon assistance. The whole concept was brilliant by Danny, that's all I'm saying!

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Re: 2013 British Chess Championships (Torquay)

Post by Andrew Collins » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:22 pm

Andrew Martins 'sidekick' mentioned the computer just after the bishop sack and said it wasn't good enough at least objectively, I haven't looked with an engine, although it is kind of obvious from that point, that it would cause some practical problems to solve regardless of how sound it was

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Re: 2013 British Chess Championships (Torquay)

Post by John Cox » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:26 pm

Something's gone wrong with my live board in Arkell-Shaw. I'd guess Keith thinks what's happened is progress - time to put the rook on a2 and meander back to the kingside with the king. Spread of .75 to 0.80? Bit low, perhaps.

My live board also shows Pete W losing on time on move 18. That couldn't be true - could it?!

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Re: 2013 British Chess Championships (Torquay)

Post by Simon Ansell » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:31 pm

Objectively, does Keith actually have any advantage at all? If I just play f7-f5, where is the winning plan?

Having said that, defending this against Keith is my idea of hell. Spread on the move he'll play f2-f3: 52-56?

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Re: 2013 British Chess Championships (Torquay)

Post by Simon Brown » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:32 pm

Don't think so, unless Longson and Weaving have also lost on time already. 18 moves is quite early, even for PK.

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Re: 2013 British Chess Championships (Torquay)

Post by Simon Brown » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:38 pm

Simon Ansell wrote:I've just cheated and turned to silicon assistance. The whole concept was brilliant by Danny, that's all I'm saying!
Can you enlighten us? Looks lost to me.

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