39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:31 pm

The fear is that our hopes with the men's team might rest too heavily on the bottom two boards.

But* let's have an opinion from a former Olympiad player ...?

* sees "mhebden" as having logged on

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:33 pm

Sarah is completely winning. Any news on board one?

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Ben Purton » Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:33 pm

Theres one miracle, at least Karsten Muller came in use one time in his life
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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Mark Howitt » Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:40 pm

Thought this would be a tough game but bad result anyway.

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:02 pm

not a single miracle in Ukraine v Scotland either.

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by benedgell » Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:11 pm

Looks like the Vietnamese are going to pull off an upset against Azerbaijan.

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Alex Holowczak » Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:49 pm

Bulgaria lost to Croatia too.

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Maxim Devereaux » Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:24 pm

benedgell wrote:Looks like the Vietnamese are going to pull off an upset against Azerbaijan.
They have. After the relay had us believing Le Quang Liem had lost his queen yesterday and gone down, Jonathan Rogers can start thinking that his prediction of a top 10 finish for Vietnam is suddenly looking very prescient.

Open draw is up for tomorrow. England have White on odds vs. South Africa

And now the Women's too - England White on odds vs. Venezuela

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Matthew Turner » Wed Sep 22, 2010 5:05 pm

Very disappointing from the England men today. Except for Short very early on, they never looked like winning a game to me. I did think Sokolov played very well, so Bosnia certainly deserve a fair bit of credit. I hope Gawain will play tomorrow, perhaps they can engine a shot at a board prize for him?
The Women did us proud, nice win from Sarah and I thought Kanwal and Jovanka might be doing well at various points.

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by LozCooper » Thu Sep 23, 2010 5:33 am

Round 3 board pairings:

England (ENG) Rtg - 81 South Africa (RSA) Rtg 0 : 0
30.1 GM Adams Michael 2728 - IM Solomon Kenny 2394
30.2 GM Short Nigel D 2690 - IM Kobese Watu 2370
30.3 GM McShane Luke J 2657 - FM Steel Henry Robert 2300
30.4 GM Jones Gawain C B 2576 - CM Van den Heever Donovan 2285

39 England (ENG) Rtg - 54 Venezuela (VEN) Rtg 0 : 0
19.1 IM Houska Jovanka 2426 - IM Sanchez Castillo Sarai 2278
19.2 WIM Lauterbach Ingrid 2169 - WIM Moreno Garcia Elizabeth Paola 2024
19.3 WFM Grigoryan Meri 2099 - Gutierrez Leonela 2062
19.4 WFM Hegarty Sarah N 2084 - WIM Ubaldo Suarez Maria Gisela 2054

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by LozCooper » Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:18 am

Jonathan Rogers wrote:The fear is that our hopes with the men's team might rest too heavily on the bottom two boards.

But* let's have an opinion from a former Olympiad player ...?

* sees "mhebden" as having logged on
I can't claim to be a past/present or future Olympiad player but let's not write the obituaries for our top two players just yet. I still can't believe we only managed 1.5 from the 4 games yesterday given the positions the team had but team morale is good and we have plenty of rounds to recover.

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Steve Rooney » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:28 am

Strange that some respected UK newspapers appear to have reported a story that Yemen sacked its team for playing Israel when it's shown as a default on official site. A Yemen outlet has just issued a correction to the story but the Independent ran the original item on it website at least (and read out in Radio 4 Today headlines) and the Telegraph appears on a google news search running the same although the page cannot be found, presumably withdrawn.

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by David Brock » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:38 am

Good luck to our guys today!

We really out grade our opponents today so lets hope for at least 3.5 points
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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Alex Holowczak » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:47 am

Steve Rooney wrote:Strange that some respected UK newspapers appear to have reported a story that Yemen sacked its team for playing Israel when it's shown as a default on official site. A Yemen outlet has just issued a correction to the story but the Independent ran the original item on it website at least (and read out in Radio 4 Today headlines) and the Telegraph appears on a google news search running the same although the page cannot be found, presumably withdrawn.
The page for the Independent is here: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 87043.html

Apparently, they were supposed to withdraw rather than simply default the match.

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:50 am

LozCooper wrote:
Jonathan Rogers wrote:The fear is that our hopes with the men's team might rest too heavily on the bottom two boards.

But* let's have an opinion from a former Olympiad player ...?

* sees "mhebden" as having logged on
I can't claim to be a past/present or future Olympiad player but let's not write the obituaries for our top two players just yet. I still can't believe we only managed 1.5 from the 4 games yesterday given the positions the team had but team morale is good and we have plenty of rounds to recover.

Sure, it's early days. And if one assumes, as I have done, that our aim is for a top ten place (not a medal) then an early loss does not have to dampen things too much. Sometimes one can make a virtue out of these things.

My comment yesterday was meant not as an obituary, which would be absurd at this stage, but rather as a reflection (and a response to another poster) on what went wrong yesterday - the point being that we had drifted on board two as well as board one. I had some sympathy for Adams yesterday - he cannot have been too keen about playing a second black after having struggled in his first, and in the event Sokolov simply played very well and might have beaten almost anyone. If his morale is still good though, he can surely recover.

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