4NCL and Chess Results dot com

[Roger de Coverly]

I'm not suggesting using registration lists; rather making the pairings after team lists are submitted on the day.

In all play all divisions, pairings are announced at the start of the season. Even in a Swiss team event, pairings are known before the team list is submitted. I think that's the right way round as team selection or board order can be tweaked according to the opposition,

[Tim Spanton]

I'm not suggesting using registration lists; rather making the pairings after team lists are submitted on the day.

In all play all divisions, pairings are announced at the start of the season. Even in a Swiss team event, pairings are known before the team list is submitted. I think that's the right way round as team selection or board order can be tweaked according to the opposition,

In all-play-all events you do not need to base round-one pairings on team strength; that's only important for swisses

[Nick Burrows]

In all-play-all events you do not need to base round-one pairings on team strength; that's only important for swisses

It is if you wish to use the current structure of one "strong" team and one "weak" per weekend. Also, the opening weekends teams can be unrepresentive of a squads strength accross the season.

[Alan Walton]

I am still confused with all this, if it ain't broke why bother discussing all this

If you believe there is a better process than the current model then do the build work and testing then either donate it to the 4NCL or even sell it; otherwise I suspect Alex & co will continue on their merry way with the current system

[Roger de Coverly]

Also, the opening weekends teams can be unrepresentive of a squads strength accross the season.

Another complication is that teams from the same squad or management are expected to meet in the first round.

[Paul Cooksey]

I know I am three pages late but I was surprised by the question. Is Swiss manager now so widely adopted that Chess Results has become a de facto standard and it is notable if an event does not use it?

[Joey Stewart]

I know I am three pages late but I was surprised by the question. Is Swiss manager now so widely adopted that Chess Results has become a de facto standard and it is notable if an event does not use it?

It certainly seems that way when you look at the vast number of UK events that now appear daily on chessresults, even going so far as local and club events featuring there.
Kind of good to have a centralised hub but also, given the established history over the last 30 years of chess websites abruptly closing down, also feels worryingly like a lot of eggs in one basket

[NickFaulks]

Kind of good to have a centralised hub but also, given the established history over the last 30 years of chess websites abruptly closing down, also feels worryingly like a lot of eggs in one basket

You are correct. If Swiss Manager were to go down, I believe FIDE would find itself in difficulties.

When I was Secretary and then Chair of QC I mentioned this repeatedly in reports to FIDE Council, and to Makro and Arkady personally. Nobody was interested.

I also warned them about Olimpbase, which contains a huge amount of historical information that FIDE itself lost many years ago during an office move. That site does indeed appear to have gone down, perhaps irrecoverably.

[John Upham]

It is somewhat concerning that chess-results dot com is a single point of failure along with Swiss Manager and that FIDE does not give a jot about that.

I assume HH runs both of these things out of the goodness of his heart and could stop offering the services anytime he choses.

[NickFaulks]

I assume HH runs both of these things out of the goodness of his heart and could stop offering the services anytime he choses.

He certainly might wish to retire one day and I wouldn't be surprised if some of the IP resides in his head.

[John Saunders]

Some exceedingly good news - Olimpbase is back...

https://www.olimpbase.org/index.php

[Matt Mackenzie]

That is heartening indeed.

[Christopher Kreuzer]

Very good news. Wonder what happened to cause the long hiatus? Maybe as a community chess players should help ensure more backups and redundancy and continuity and disaster planning (well, and play chess as well). Some national and international bodies take this seriously. Their examples could be followed.