Stop the Press: Wood Green do not Win London League Match
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Stop the Press: Wood Green do not Win London League Match
Amazingly, after a twenty-two* year reign of dominance, the wheels have fallen off the Wood Green express.
Funded for many years the usual tedious Wood Green 12-0, 10-0 or 8-0 score line has been replaced by a 3.5 - 4.5 "drubbing" by Division One rivals, Hammersmith.
Club Secretary and journalist, Leon Watson, over the moon, wrote at length in:
https://www.chess.com/news/view/22-year ... y-of-chess
*There is debate about the exact time scale.
Funded for many years the usual tedious Wood Green 12-0, 10-0 or 8-0 score line has been replaced by a 3.5 - 4.5 "drubbing" by Division One rivals, Hammersmith.
Club Secretary and journalist, Leon Watson, over the moon, wrote at length in:
https://www.chess.com/news/view/22-year ... y-of-chess
*There is debate about the exact time scale.
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Re: Stop the Press: Wood Green do not Win London League Match
Strange title to the thread given they actually lost.
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Re: Stop the Press: Wood Green do not Win London League Match
Eh? Surely "do not win" means much the same thing (though it does include the possibility of a draw I suppose)
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Re: Stop the Press: Wood Green do not Win London League Match
Before the 4NCL kicked in, Wood Green were once defeated by Bedford in the final of the national club championships.
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Re: Stop the Press: Wood Green do not Win London League Match
That’s exactly the point given that they’ve drawn games much more recently than they’ve lost any (although still a long time ago). They last drew a match around 2016, they last lost in 2008.Matt Mackenzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:25 amEh? Surely "do not win" means much the same thing (though it does include the possibility of a draw I suppose)
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Re: Stop the Press: Wood Green do not Win London League Match
Ah I see, well the loss to Bedford was in 2001.
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Re: Stop the Press: Wood Green do not Win London League Match
Indeed. Does anyone have the game scores from that match (which, as I recall, was a fairly impressive piece of giant-killing)?MJMcCready wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:00 amBefore the 4NCL kicked in, Wood Green were once defeated by Bedford in the final of the national club championships.
I declare an interest as a former Bedfordian.
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Re: Stop the Press: Wood Green do not Win London League Match
Hi Neil, Andy Ledger might have and Paul Habershon also perhaps?Neil_Hickman wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:57 amIndeed. Does anyone have the game scores from that match (which, as I recall, was a fairly impressive piece of giant-killing)?MJMcCready wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:00 amBefore the 4NCL kicked in, Wood Green were once defeated by Bedford in the final of the national club championships.
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Re: Stop the Press: Wood Green do not Win London League Match
A board count 3-3 'victory' but it was enough. Very much the Ledger show on top 3 boards, the brothers scoring 2.5/3 v Turner, Levitt, Pein. I doubt if the score of my irrelevant loss on Board 5 would be of much interest. Mike Smith drew on 4.MJMcCready wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:05 pmHi Neil, Andy Ledger might have and Paul Habershon also perhaps?Neil_Hickman wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:57 amIndeed. Does anyone have the game scores from that match (which, as I recall, was a fairly impressive piece of giant-killing)?MJMcCready wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:00 amBefore the 4NCL kicked in, Wood Green were once defeated by Bedford in the final of the national club championships.
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Re: Stop the Press: Wood Green do not Win London League Match
Yes - my recollection was that Dave Ledger was offered a draw, which he declined (and quite possibly, Dave being Dave, did so in a slightly Fischeresque manner). His (IM? GM?) opponent was reportedly somewhat annoyed by this presumption and in the resulting red mist allowed a cheapo which shed a piece. And it went downhill from there...Paul Habershon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:14 pm
A board count 3-3 'victory' but it was enough. Very much the Ledger show on top 3 boards, the brothers scoring 2.5/3 v Turner, Levitt, Pein. I doubt if the score of my irrelevant loss on Board 5 would be of much interest. Mike Smith drew on 4.
It would be good to have Dave Ledger's game score.
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Re: Stop the Press: Wood Green do not Win London League Match
By sounds of the game I suspect only Dave ledger would be willing to let it be seen againNeil_Hickman wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:26 pm[
Yes - my recollection was that Dave Ledger was offered a draw, which he declined (and quite possibly, Dave being Dave, did so in a slightly Fischeresque manner). His (IM? GM?) opponent was reportedly somewhat annoyed by this presumption and in the resulting red mist allowed a cheapo which shed a piece. And it went downhill from there...
It would be good to have Dave Ledger's game score.
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Re: Stop the Press: Wood Green do not Win London League Match
A report of the 2001 match. https://sccu-chess.com/archive/0001/nc.htm
1. Andrew J Ledger 225 ½ - ½ Matthew Turner 238 (W)
2. David J Ledger 216 1-0 Jonathan Levitt 229
3. Steve C Ledger 196 1-0 Malcolm Pein 229
4. MD Smith 167 ½-½ Ben Savage 197
5. Paul F Habershon 162 0-1 Chris Maduekwe 176
6. Charles E Bullock 156 0-1 A Kikoyo 173
1. Andrew J Ledger 225 ½ - ½ Matthew Turner 238 (W)
2. David J Ledger 216 1-0 Jonathan Levitt 229
3. Steve C Ledger 196 1-0 Malcolm Pein 229
4. MD Smith 167 ½-½ Ben Savage 197
5. Paul F Habershon 162 0-1 Chris Maduekwe 176
6. Charles E Bullock 156 0-1 A Kikoyo 173