Media comments on chess

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by MJMcCready » Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:14 pm

Mark Howitt wrote:
Sat Jul 29, 2023 3:15 pm
Nope betting on chess would be sports betting.
Most, if not all, major sporting betting companies in the uk and Ireland tote the world chess championships (e.g Ladrokes, Paddy Power). The extent to which the odds are sound is, of course, open to interpretation. In the last of the Carlen - Anand matches I thought they were off the mark.
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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Mark Howitt » Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:15 pm

MJMcCready wrote:
Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:14 pm
Mark Howitt wrote:
Sat Jul 29, 2023 3:15 pm
Nope betting on chess would be sports betting.
Most, if not all, major betting companies in the uk and Ireland tote the world chess championships. The extent to which the odds are sound is, of course, open to interpretation. In the last of the Carlen - Anand matches I thought they were off the mark.
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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by MJMcCready » Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:45 pm

Just to clarify, the odds of anyone beating Magnus anytime soon are about 1,000,000-1

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Geoff Chandler » Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:33 pm

I watched 'Gringo' recently (still currently on BBC catch up) the lead character David Oyelowo, is explaining to a colleague how at the job interview his boss offered to play him at chess.

He explains without a chessboard his boss opened 1 f3 so he played 1...e5 then his boss played 2.g4 but I wanted the job so I did not checkmate him. (that was the gist of it - in the film the dialogue is bit more colourful - good film. )

Speaking of gambling on chess. (I got my £5.00 back...eventually...and made a 50p profit!)

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No chess result is a forgone conclusion. Anything can happen. I recall a few years back Carlsen was unaware of the time control and thinking he was on increment lost on time v Topalov, apparently Carlsen was on a +15 computer evaluation when his clock flagged him.

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Mark Howitt » Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:18 am

Geoff Chandler wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:33 pm
I watched 'Gringo' recently (still currently on BBC catch up) the lead character David Oyelowo, is explaining to a colleague how at the job interview his boss offered to play him at chess.

He explains without a chessboard his boss opened 1 f3 so he played 1...e5 then his boss played 2.g4 but I wanted the job so I did not checkmate him. (that was the gist of it - in the film the dialogue is bit more colourful - good film. )

Speaking of gambling on chess. (I got my £5.00 back...eventually...and made a 50p profit!)

Image

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No chess result is a forgone conclusion. Anything can happen. I recall a few years back Carlsen was unaware of the time control and thinking he was on increment lost on time v Topalov, apparently Carlsen was on a +15 computer evaluation when his clock flagged him.
Nice sports betting @Geoff Chandler ;)

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Alistair Campbell » Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:52 pm

I see that Bloomberg is reporting (via Ellen (not Helen) Milligan that Rishi Sunak is soon to announce funding to support the "national (chess) team" with plans being unveiled with a giant chess set in Downing Street.

It's behind a paywall so I have no idea what the details are.

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Stephen Westmoreland » Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:58 pm

'plans to announce proposals' for £500k to the ECF for international tournaments. Expand instructions in schools and 100 chess tables in public places.

Hopefully it will happen.
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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:04 pm

100 chess tables *across the UK* is pretty small beer in truth. It is welcome, but you would have liked to see more.
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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Stephen Westmoreland » Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:23 pm

Apparently the first time there will be direct funding for international play too. Something is better than nothing, should it come off.
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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:35 pm

Stephen Westmoreland wrote:
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Apparently the first time there will be direct funding for international play too.
Not really the first time. I think part of the motive for providing funding in the 1970s was to support an international team. That was after the Fischer-Spassky match, but during the Heath government with Mrs T as Education Secretary and the Department od Education providing the funding.

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by LawrenceCooper » Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:47 pm

Stephen Westmoreland wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:23 pm
Apparently the first time there will be direct funding for international play too. Something is better than nothing, should it come off.
Malcolm tweeted about it earlier today: https://twitter.com/TelegraphChess/stat ... 7510142976

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Thomas Rendle » Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:59 pm

This should fairly obviously have it's own thread.

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Stephen Westmoreland » Wed Aug 02, 2023 5:05 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:35 pm
Stephen Westmoreland wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:23 pm
Apparently the first time there will be direct funding for international play too.
Not really the first time. I think part of the motive for providing funding in the 1970s was to support an international team. That was after the Fischer-Spassky match, but during the Heath government with Mrs T as Education Secretary and the Department od Education providing the funding.
Interesting and I stand corrected. That is what the article said 'Sunak will also earmark £500,000 ($640,000) of funding for the English Chess Federation, they said. The grant to help send teams to international tournaments would be the first time the UK government has financially backed its national squads. Sunak’s office declined to comment'.

This link should be assessible: https://news.yahoo.com/rishi-sunak-puts ... 00761.html
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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Aug 02, 2023 5:23 pm

Stephen Westmoreland wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2023 5:05 pm
That is what the article said 'Sunak will also earmark £500,000 ($640,000) of funding for the English Chess Federation, they said.
Is that per year or in total over a multi-year period? Either way it would free up a sizeable part of the ECFs annual expenditure financed by membership fees. Would the ECF reduce or abolish membership charges though? How much the ECF spends on international teams isn't always apparent as part of the cost is currently met by undisclosed sponsorship and patronage. Certainly they are reluctant to disclose the split in financing between open and women's teams.

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by NickFaulks » Wed Aug 02, 2023 5:28 pm

Matt Mackenzie wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:04 pm
100 chess tables *across the UK* is pretty small beer in truth. It is welcome, but you would have liked to see more.
The 100 chess tables are just a PR hook. £500k would satisfy my definition of "more".
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