Chess history trivia
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Re: Chess history trivia
Andersson, surely? Anderssen was long dead by then.
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Yep, typo on my part.
Here's where the info comes from.
http://www.olimpbase.org/1976/1976in.html#trivia
Here's where the info comes from.
http://www.olimpbase.org/1976/1976in.html#trivia
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John Townsend
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Re: Chess history trivia
Which top French player was tried for owning snuff and cigars of foreign manufacture?
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Snuff!
Must be one of the older generation, La Bourdonnais, Philidor, Saint-Amant, Legall...(I've run our of 17th and 18th century French players....Napoleon!)
Must be one of the older generation, La Bourdonnais, Philidor, Saint-Amant, Legall...(I've run our of 17th and 18th century French players....Napoleon!)
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John Townsend
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Each forumite is allowed one guess.
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Geoff Chandler
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One Guess. So it must be one of them. I'll work it out logically.
Not Legall, to much of a coincidence, Legall being illegal.
Not Phildor, too busy composing music, playing blindfold chess and worrying about pawn formations.
Not La Bourdonnais cannot remember any reports of him pipe smoking or snuffing.
So it must be Saint-Amant - and he was grassed up to the authorities by Staunton.
Not Legall, to much of a coincidence, Legall being illegal.
Not Phildor, too busy composing music, playing blindfold chess and worrying about pawn formations.
Not La Bourdonnais cannot remember any reports of him pipe smoking or snuffing.
So it must be Saint-Amant - and he was grassed up to the authorities by Staunton.
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John Townsend
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You shouldn't assume it is one of those five. I was merely establishing the (desirable) principle of one guess per person.
Anyway, it wasn't Saint-Amant.
Anyway, it wasn't Saint-Amant.
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Colin Patterson
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Re: Chess history trivia
I'm thinking a fair bit of obscure trivia would be known about Duchamp, so he would be my guess.
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John Townsend
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Sorry, Colin, but it wasn't Duchamp. Incidentally, while we are on the subject, there is a good article by Edward Winter, Marcel Duchamp and Chess:
https://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/duchamp.html
https://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/duchamp.html
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Kevin Thurlow
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I think Louis XV banned import of snuff, but I have no idea if the ban were ever repealed. Anyway, having decided not to say Alireza, how about Alekhine as a wild guess.
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From The London Magazine - Volume 2 - Page 97 (1825)
...I retain a more vivid recollection than M. de Legalle; he was a thin, pale old gentleman, who had sat in the same seat at the Café, and worn the same green coat for a great number of years when I first visited Paris. While he played at chess, he took snuff in such profusion that his chitterling frill was literally saturated with stray particles of the powder...
A 'miserable worm' - Nigel Short
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John Townsend
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Sorry, Kevin, but not Alekhine.
I see from Gerard's quote that Legalle was a snuff-taker, but he is not the one who was put on trial.
To give a clue, the trial was not long after the Staunton v. Saint-Amant match in Paris.
I see from Gerard's quote that Legalle was a snuff-taker, but he is not the one who was put on trial.
To give a clue, the trial was not long after the Staunton v. Saint-Amant match in Paris.
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Well I'll try Deschapelles. He was still alive at the time of the 1843 match, and just the sort of contrarian character who'd have decided the rules didn't (or shouldn't) apply to him.
"The chess-board is the world ..... the player on the other side is hidden from us ..... he never overlooks a mistake, or makes the smallest allowance for ignorance."
(He doesn't let you resign and start again, either.)
(He doesn't let you resign and start again, either.)
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John Townsend
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Deschapelles is correct. Well done, John. It was reported in the British press at the time, e.g. Morning Post, 20 January 1844, page 6. He was acquitted.
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Who was the husband and wife who both played Morphy. (the women also played Capablanca making that a fairly unique double.)