2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March

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Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March

Post by Carl Hibbard » Fri Mar 25, 2016 6:48 pm

Jonathan Bryant wrote:Bank holiday evening.

An apparently pointless rook ending, the result of which - even if it wasn’t a forgone conclusion - is hardly likely to affect the top of the table when all is said and done.

I’m the only one watching, right?
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Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March

Post by JustinHorton » Fri Mar 25, 2016 6:49 pm

Did chess24 have the wrong moves at some point and have to change them? Their computer suddenly showed a serious advantage to Black if Black had played ....Kh5 in place of ....Kf7, but going back to check I find that there's no position in which that would have been possible.
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Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March

Post by JustinHorton » Fri Mar 25, 2016 6:50 pm

Anyway, agreed drawn. Thank God for that.

All the top six players can still win, I think.
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Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March

Post by Jonathan Bryant » Fri Mar 25, 2016 6:52 pm

JustinHorton wrote:Anyway, agreed drawn. Thank God for that.

All the top six players can still win, I think.

Are 7 of 8 on 50% or higher?

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Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March

Post by JustinHorton » Fri Mar 25, 2016 6:54 pm

No, Nakamura is on minus one.
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Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March

Post by LawrenceCooper » Fri Mar 25, 2016 6:55 pm

Jonathan Bryant wrote:
JustinHorton wrote:Anyway, agreed drawn. Thank God for that.

All the top six players can still win, I think.

Are 7 of 8 on 50% or higher?
No, six. Nakamura is on -1 and Topalov on -4. If the last game is decisive then it would drop to five.

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Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March

Post by JustinHorton » Fri Mar 25, 2016 7:06 pm

Anand is stil quite handily placed but he would need to beat Giri tomorrow, which, ah...
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Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March

Post by Carl Hibbard » Fri Mar 25, 2016 7:07 pm

JustinHorton wrote:Anyway, agreed drawn. Thank God for that.

All the top six players can still win, I think.
I expected Anand with the experience and better nerves but then he headed straight down a clearly prepared line so what do I know.
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Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March

Post by Mick Norris » Fri Mar 25, 2016 7:23 pm

Rest day tomorrow, thankfully

Whatever the results on Sunday, then, Monday's final round will decide who wins
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Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March

Post by Carl Hibbard » Fri Mar 25, 2016 7:38 pm

I would say long term only Giri who won't qualify can stand up to Carlsen.
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Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March

Post by JustinHorton » Fri Mar 25, 2016 7:46 pm

Mick Norris wrote: Whatever the results on Sunday, then, Monday's final round will decide who wins
Is this the case if Karjakin, Svidler and Giri all win?

EDIT: Yes it is. Duh.
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Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March

Post by Mick Norris » Fri Mar 25, 2016 8:38 pm

+2 - Karjakin (3 wins) & Caruana (2 wins)
+1 - Anand (4 wins, but worse head to head with Caruana and equal head to head with Karjakin)
0 - Aronian (2 wins), Svidler (1 win) & Giri (12 draws)

A 2 way tie between Karjakin & Caruana will favour the former, unless Caruana loses to Svidler, Karjakin beats Aronian, and then Caruana beats Karjakin (which gives Caruana a better head to head)

A 3 way tie between Caruana, Karjakin & Anand will favour Caruana (who beat Anand) unless it comes about by Karjakin beating Caruana (in which case Karjakin qualifies)

Feel free to check this, it has been a long day :roll:

I don't want to think about Giri, Svidler and Aronian each winning their last 2 games and what happens if Karjakin-Caruana is a draw, let alone if it isn't
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Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March

Post by JustinHorton » Fri Mar 25, 2016 8:48 pm

Try another puzzle. The odds have Nakamura at 150/1 to win outright. Can you (or anybody) construct a set of results that would enable this to happen?
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Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March

Post by NickFaulks » Fri Mar 25, 2016 8:49 pm

Mick Norris wrote: I don't want to think about...
Quite right.
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Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March

Post by NickFaulks » Fri Mar 25, 2016 8:54 pm

JustinHorton wrote:Try another puzzle. The odds have Nakamura at 150/1 to win outright. Can you (or anybody) construct a set of results that would enable this to happen?
I think you're misunderstanding the betting rules. This isn't about being the winner after tiebreaks.
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