World Cup Baku 10 September to 4 October 2015

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Re: World Cup Baku 10 September to 4 October 2015

Post by Roger de Coverly » Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:24 pm

Barry Sandercock wrote:Karjakin looks to be better at move44. Hopefully no blunders this time.
According to chessbomb's Stockfish, Black's 44 th move was an error, losing a pawn or equivalent.

The current position looks very unhealthy for Black, with his King in no position to stop the g pawn.

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Post by Tim Harding » Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:35 pm

It's not clear from Chess24/Chessdom what Karjakin played at move 57 or whether Svidler resigned immediately after 56...Rg2. We expected 57 Ke6 but Chess24 briefly showed 57 Ke4 (which would only draw). That must be because the White K was put there to signify victory.
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Re: World Cup Baku 10 September to 4 October 2015

Post by Barry Sandercock » Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:45 pm

I believe Svidler played 56..Rg2 and resigned.

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Re: World Cup Baku 10 September to 4 October 2015

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:45 pm

Tim Harding wrote: So rapids tomorrow with Svidler mentally all shook up. Just two bad moves in succession yesterday and he seems to have lost self-belief.
Turning an almost trivially won position into a completely lost one in a few moves is the sort of situation rest days were designed for :oops:

Hard to see Karjakin not winning the tiebreaks now, but.......
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Re: World Cup Baku 10 September to 4 October 2015

Post by Tim Harding » Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:12 pm

Barry Sandercock wrote:I believe Svidler played 56..Rg2 and resigned.
According to ChessBase, White played 56 g6 and then Black resigned but perhaps that's because they are not sure. I think Karjakin did play a 57th move and Svidler then resigned immediately. The white K was put on e4 and the chess24 engines started showing 0.00 and the result 1-0 at the same time until somebody intervened. I hope an official clarification will be forthcoming.
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Re: World Cup Baku 10 September to 4 October 2015

Post by Jonathan Bryant » Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:27 pm

I was watching on Chess24 and on my screen saw Ke6 (very briefly)and then Ke4 (slightly longer) and then neither.

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Re: World Cup Baku 10 September to 4 October 2015

Post by Tim Harding » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:00 pm

Jonathan Bryant wrote:I was watching on Chess24 and on my screen saw Ke6 (very briefly)and then Ke4 (slightly longer) and then neither.
That's also my recollection.
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Re: World Cup Baku 10 September to 4 October 2015

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:04 pm

You might have thought this technology could have been refined by now so that bogus "final" king moves don't appear anymore?
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Re: World Cup Baku 10 September to 4 October 2015

Post by Mick Norris » Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:22 am

the game score was wrong (DGT's bad design and an inattentive/lazy arbiter error, as usual)
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Re: World Cup Baku 10 September to 4 October 2015

Post by MartinCarpenter » Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:43 pm

Svidler has clearly been consulting those English club players ;) I've always found this stuff to be oddly drawish somehow.

Karjakin's mental strength is clearly something else.

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Re: World Cup Baku 10 September to 4 October 2015

Post by JustinHorton » Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:26 pm

And so we go on.
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Re: World Cup Baku 10 September to 4 October 2015

Post by Mick Norris » Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:36 pm

After 3 straight losses, Svidler has now won his must-win game - I have no idea who is going to win the World Cup now
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Re: World Cup Baku 10 September to 4 October 2015

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:39 pm

Well at least its exciting :)
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Re: World Cup Baku 10 September to 4 October 2015

Post by MartinCarpenter » Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:00 pm

Well also trending a tiny bit towards farce towards the end of that game.....

Absurd of course but you almost think it'd have been kinder to the players to toss a coin!

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Re: World Cup Baku 10 September to 4 October 2015

Post by Tim Harding » Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:01 pm

An hour ago Svidler looked like a somnambulist with a death wish but now two wins in a row!

Next blitz at about 2.10 with Svidler "only" needing a draw with White. When did we hear that before?

20 MINUTES LATER: Svidler back in death-wish mode...
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