World Cup Baku 10 September to 4 October 2015

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Re: World Cup Baku 10 September to 4 October 2015

Post by Mick Norris » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:12 pm

Quarter finals tomorrow:

Svidler v Wei Yi
Giri v MVL

Nakamura v Eljanov
Mameryarov v Karjakin
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Re: World Cup Baku 10 September to 4 October 2015

Post by LawrenceCooper » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:35 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
LawrenceCooper wrote:In the third rapid game I liked the move 12 Qg3 which looked like a beginner's blunder at first glance but was a trap (admittedly forced) albeit one which a player of Ding's strength easily avoided.
This is a known line of the Bishop's Opening, and I expect it appears in Gary Lane's book. Tragically I have lost my copy, but I'm sure that the Chinese players have been more careful and have studied it in depth.
Thanks for the info, I hadn't even seen Qxd2 before despite it being an opening I sometimes play :oops:

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Re: World Cup Baku 10 September to 4 October 2015

Post by JustinHorton » Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:21 pm

Looks harder to me than the numbers suggest, but Eljanov really ought to beat Najamura today.
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Re: World Cup Baku 10 September to 4 October 2015

Post by LawrenceCooper » Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:50 pm

Uneventful draws in Svidler-Wei and MVL-Giri but Eljanov and Mamedyarov have winning chances against Naka & Karjakin.

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Re: World Cup Baku 10 September to 4 October 2015

Post by LawrenceCooper » Wed Sep 23, 2015 3:19 pm

Mamedyarov embarking on an enterprising king march.

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Re: World Cup Baku 10 September to 4 October 2015

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Sep 23, 2015 3:32 pm

OMG! Eljanov missed a clear-cut mating line. :shock:

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Re: World Cup Baku 10 September to 4 October 2015

Post by Barry Sandercock » Wed Sep 23, 2015 3:48 pm

Malmedyarov- Karjakin is an interesting ending. Can white win ?

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Re: World Cup Baku 10 September to 4 October 2015

Post by LawrenceCooper » Wed Sep 23, 2015 3:49 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:OMG! Eljanov missed a clear-cut mating line. :shock:
No matter, he has now won.

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Re: World Cup Baku 10 September to 4 October 2015

Post by LawrenceCooper » Wed Sep 23, 2015 4:26 pm

Barry Sandercock wrote:Malmedyarov- Karjakin is an interesting ending. Can white win ?
Maybe but he didn't.

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Re: World Cup Baku 10 September to 4 October 2015

Post by Mick Norris » Wed Sep 23, 2015 5:12 pm

Amazing results from Eljanov, now 2750 on the live ratings up to number 15 in the world

I know he was world number 6 rated 2761 in 2010, but he has been excellent so far - not easy tomorrow as Nakamura has white of course
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Re: World Cup Baku 10 September to 4 October 2015

Post by MartinCarpenter » Wed Sep 23, 2015 5:39 pm

So actually not at all amazing :) Excellent form of course though.

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Re: World Cup Baku 10 September to 4 October 2015

Post by Mick Norris » Wed Sep 23, 2015 5:46 pm

He has gained 33.1 rating points with 2 draws against Jakovenko and wins in his other 7 games - he may have profited from winning games when his opponents had to go for broke after losing the first game, but lots of other players have settled for draws in those circumstances
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Re: World Cup Baku 10 September to 4 October 2015

Post by MartinCarpenter » Wed Sep 23, 2015 7:42 pm

Like I said, excellent form :) Amazing just somehow feels to me like its slightly understating his previous achievements. A very serious player, like of course a big chunk of this field is/was!

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Re: World Cup Baku 10 September to 4 October 2015

Post by John McKenna » Wed Sep 23, 2015 7:56 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
LawrenceCooper wrote:In the third rapid game I liked the move 12 Qg3 which looked like a beginner's blunder at first glance but was a trap (admittedly forced) albeit one which a player of Ding's strength easily avoided.
This is a known line of the Bishop's Opening, and I expect it appears in Gary Lane's book. Tragically I have lost my copy, but I'm sure that the Chinese players have been more careful and have studied it in depth.
Regarding the above comments on one of yesterday's games -

Gary Lane's 1993 edition of Winning with the Bishop's Opening does not deal with the variation played by in the Wei-Ding game. Wei parted company with Lane by 7.Qxd2 instead of 7.Nbxd2, which is the only move Lane gives at that point.

However, the 7.Qd2 variation has some interesting history as can be seen below -



How much of the history the two Chinese knew before the game may never be known.
But, Wei's 15.Nc3 looks like an improvement on Hendrik's 15.Nd2.

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Re: World Cup Baku 10 September to 4 October 2015

Post by NickFaulks » Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:23 pm

John McKenna wrote: Gary Lane's 1993 edition of Winning with the Bishop's Opening
Good Lord, was it really 1993? Probably the Chinese did have better preparation material. Nonetheless, I suspect they both knew what they were doing.
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