The British itself!

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John Moore
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Re: The British itself!

Post by John Moore » Sun Jul 27, 2014 4:39 pm

David Howell probably has typical Ragozin compensation as white for the pawn but I doubt anymore than that.

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Re: The British itself!

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Sun Jul 27, 2014 4:41 pm

John Moore wrote:
MartinCarpenter wrote:Well Howell a hopeless time trouble addict at the best of times and will have wanted to double check whatever he could half remember. You can't carry a full repetoire in your head in full detail 24/7!

At first glance Hill - Brusey looked quite normal then I saw that bishop on b8 and couldn't stop laughing :) Impressively inventive I guess!
David Howell looks to have reached an unbalanced position with White - certainly not one where he is better - but is an hour down on the clock.

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He's just a pawn down for nothing. He really did have nothing v Ragozin, or something only half-remembered which can be even worse. It is a bit surprising but as I said he's not the only one (Nakamura). Perhaps the important thing to note is that he is not a universal 1 d4 or 1 Nf3 player, as is (say) Kramnik. If you try to play everything as White, there is a greater chance that you will have holes in your repertoire which you try to avoid rather than repair. And then if your opponent surprises you, as I believe Hawkins did ...

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Re: The British itself!

Post by John Moore » Sun Jul 27, 2014 4:49 pm

Jon - doubt it's for completely nothing. The e5 square counts for something and Black's pawn majority is on the same side as his King which makes it difficult to advance with the heavy pieces on.

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Re: The British itself!

Post by Simon Ansell » Sun Jul 27, 2014 4:53 pm

Lewis Martin wrote:Rudd-Williams has not failed to live up to its billing!
Hardly. Simon was just winning easily from roughly move 14.

I don't think David's pawn less is for "nothing" either, but it's certainly not more than enough. Now that Black has played ...f6 the compensation is obvious, and if he hadn't have done that there might have been problems with the h-pawn.

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Re: The British itself!

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Sun Jul 27, 2014 4:59 pm

I still think there was rather little compensation at around move 18. Sure, the kingside pawns were easier to attack but he had an open g-file: I think that Rhf8 in order to play ...f6 was rather weak stuff from Black and there must have been a more positive way to play the position. I mean, White had no play for his rooks before Black played ...f6.

I wonder whether Hawkins is not at his best when converting extra material when he doesn't have the initiative as well (remembering the time I drew with him in 4NCL a few years ago when I had certainly been down a pawn for not very much)

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Re: The British itself!

Post by John Moore » Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:02 pm

Jon, I guess he still remembers that as well.

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Re: The British itself!

Post by Richard Bates » Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:05 pm

On the earlier subject of Hill-Brusey - which of black's pieces does anyone think is the least happy? ;)

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Re: The British itself!

Post by John Moore » Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:05 pm

Joking aside - 25.. Rd2 seems to calm things down somewhat. Since the white a pawn is a problem
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Re: The British itself!

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:06 pm

John Moore wrote:Jon, I guess he still remembers that as well.
I actually thought he was playing for the GM title at the time (round 9, and he was on for his third GM norm) and was only told afterwards about his "needs a norm that is not exempt from the foreigner requirement" problem.

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Re: The British itself!

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:06 pm

John McKenna wrote:No, I guess not, but why not avoid pairing siblings if humanely possible?
Go on then, John, try your hand at pairing those top scoregroups.

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Re: The British itself!

Post by John Moore » Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:11 pm

Richard Bates wrote:On the earlier subject of Hill-Brusey - which of black's pieces does anyone think is the least happy? ;)
Richard - now the position is blocked!

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Re: The British itself!

Post by Lewis Martin » Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:16 pm

John Moore wrote:
Richard Bates wrote:On the earlier subject of Hill-Brusey - which of black's pieces does anyone think is the least happy? ;)
Richard - now the position is blocked!
No it isn't.

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Re: The British itself!

Post by John Moore » Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:18 pm

Lewis - I wasn't sure how to answer Richard's question. Clearly, White is hugely better.

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Re: The British itself!

Post by Lewis Martin » Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:18 pm

In Rudd-Williams, 23. Qg3 first looked to be a better try.

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Re: The British itself!

Post by Lewis Martin » Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:21 pm

Richard Bates wrote:On the earlier subject of Hill-Brusey - which of black's pieces does anyone think is the least happy? ;)
The a8 rook obviously. It hasn't moved! :lol:

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