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Geoff Chandler
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by Geoff Chandler » Sat Oct 15, 2022 12:55 pm
I saw the first few moves of the game 1.e4 Nf6 2.f3 which is what used to play hoping for 2...e5 3.f4!
The game is OTB and the article does say they do not play online but it is dated 2021 and it easy to see how anybody since then has jumped online and the odds are quite reasonable if you play often enough you will bump into an electrical opponent.
I too have a board like that, same pattern and what I consider folding the wrong away. the crease in between the d-file and the e-file instead of the between the 4th and 5th ranks. (personal opinion.)
The game. In the article the Rooks when on the 7th are called 'piggies' a reference to to blind swine(?)
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Roger de Coverly
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by Roger de Coverly » Sat Oct 15, 2022 1:10 pm
Geoff Chandler wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 12:55 pm
In the article the Rooks when on the 7th are called 'piggies' a reference to to blind swine(?)
I'm not sure who coined it, when and where; but I think I've seen the expression "blind pigs" used to described doubled rooks on the seventh. Would it have been Nimzovich?
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by John Upham » Sat Oct 15, 2022 2:30 pm
Roger de Coverly wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 1:10 pm
Geoff Chandler wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 12:55 pm
In the article the Rooks when on the 7th are called 'piggies' a reference to to blind swine(?)
I'm not sure who coined it, when and where; but I think I've seen the expression "blind pigs" used to described doubled rooks on the seventh. Would it have been Nimzovich?
Nimzowitsch called a pair of rooks on the opponent’s second rank “blind pigs” because they devour everything indiscriminately.
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Roger de Coverly
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by Roger de Coverly » Sat Oct 15, 2022 2:59 pm
John Upham wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 2:30 pm
- Blind Pigs (Chess)
A more direct URL is
https://www.glossaria.net/en/chess
I looked up "hoover" being a term used by GMs to describe rook and perhaps other activity taking pawns. It's not there, Harry as in h pawn is however.
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by Paul Habershon » Sat Oct 15, 2022 3:54 pm
Roger de Coverly wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 2:59 pm
John Upham wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 2:30 pm
- Blind Pigs (Chess)
A more direct URL is
https://www.glossaria.net/en/chess
I looked up "hoover" being a term used by GMs to describe rook and perhaps other activity taking pawns. It's not there, Harry as in h pawn is however.
I see from this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checkmate_pattern that there is a 'blind swine' mate.
I can imagine non-players being daunted by the list of mates, imagining that you need to know all the names to become a strong player.
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by John Upham » Sat Oct 15, 2022 4:15 pm
I am reviewing "The Checkmate Patterns Manual"
Page 156 discusses the Blind Swine mate
"This mate is attributed to Polish master David Janowski (1868 - 1927) who referred to double rooks on a player's 7th rank as swine".
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by Geoff Chandler » Sat Oct 15, 2022 4:32 pm
I thought of Janowski, sometime in my past I must have looked it up or seen it somewhere.
Of course Mr. Winter has it covered.
https://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/janowsky.html
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by JustinHorton » Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:01 pm
Paul Habershon wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 3:54 pm
I can imagine non-players being daunted by the list of mates, imagining that you need to know all the names to become a strong player.
Aa I recall this is what put me off The Art Of The Checkmate forty-odd years ago and God, how I wish I had studied it now.
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Geoff Chandler
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by Geoff Chandler » Sat Oct 15, 2022 7:54 pm
Hi Justin,
One of 6 books I picked up recently at a charity shop £2-£3 each was 'The Art of Checkmate' but the 2015 algebraic version. I have the descriptive version but this is a good excuse to go though the games again. I have a few algebraic/descriptive doublers. I suppose I could donate the descriptive versions but I can't, they are old friends.
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by Geoff Chandler » Sun Oct 16, 2022 12:24 pm
And from the above book. I replayed this old record on my turntable last night. I'll just give the finale.
Vidmar - Euwe, Carlsbad (1929)