British Chess Championship 2024

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Re: British Chess Championship 2024

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:53 pm

Bit early for that. But he will win this game.

Oh, you meant his GM title? I thought you meant him winning the tournament! :D

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Re: British Chess Championship 2024

Post by Paul Cooksey » Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:02 pm

I think a win takes him over 2500 and he has the norms

Good win by Conquest and probably Jones in passing. Several players seem to be in good form.

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Re: British Chess Championship 2024

Post by Mick Norris » Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:53 pm

I thought Shreyas was after his 3rd norm, having very narrowly missed it on a couple of occasions
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Re: British Chess Championship 2024

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:53 pm

After checking this, it seems it is the other way around. He has the rating but not all the norms.

This is from Leonard Barden in his Financial Times column:

https://www.ft.com/content/1d77d064-c69 ... 21647d6cc6
At 15 years six months, Royal aims to break David Howell’s 2007 UK record of becoming a GM at 16. For that, he needs a 2500 overall rating, which he achieved at Tenerife, and three 2600 GM performances in single tournaments. He already has two of those, and missed the third at Tenerife by a whisker.

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Re: British Chess Championship 2024

Post by LawrenceCooper » Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:58 pm

Paul Cooksey wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:02 pm
I think a win takes him over 2500 and he has the norms
He has the rating from earlier this month, but only two norms.

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Re: British Chess Championship 2024

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:01 pm

Ghasi is in the same situation.

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Re: British Chess Championship 2024

Post by Richard Bates » Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:18 pm

I’m increasingly of the opinion that selectors have potentially missed a trick by not picking Shreyas for the Olympiad team.
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Re: British Chess Championship 2024

Post by Nick Burrows » Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:19 pm

Take a bow Callum Salmons

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Re: British Chess Championship 2024

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:24 pm

From earlier in the thread, Mick said this of the IMs with 2 GM norms:

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=13819&start=15#p307849
The 4 being Ghasi, Grieve, Merry & Royal, of whom only Ghasi has been above 2500?
Grieve is still in theory in the hunt for a GM norm, though his TPR is not great. Merry looks out of it now, having just lost in this round to Alex Golding (who looks nailed on for a third and final IM norm - currently performing at 2508).

Ghasi has a 2536 TPR, while it is difficult to calculate Royal's TPR as he has 4/4. It is currently showing as 3084.

Actually, all those are wrong. They are the TPRs after round three. Will have to wait until the round 5 draw is out to see what the state of play is. But as people said at the start of the tournament, lots of norm prospects.

And yes! Congrats go again to Calum Salmons (I thought he was losing to McShane, but he drew). The slight fly in the ointment being that because he is right up there with the norm seekers, he may affect their TPRs if he faces them (as he is rated 1999!). Will be interesting to see who he is paired with and how he does.

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Re: British Chess Championship 2024

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:55 pm

Nick Burrows wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:19 pm
Take a bow Callum Salmons
Oh! It was a three-fold repetition of the position!!!

I was wondering how that ended up drawn. Did Luke just miss that? Calum clearly stayed alert to that possibility.
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Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:18 pm
I’m increasingly of the opinion that selectors have potentially missed a trick by not picking Shreyas for the Olympiad team.
I had missed that. England teams for the Chess Olympiad.

Will be interesting to see how Shreyas fares against the team members who have been selected. The running score is 1-0 so far from a possible 4 match-ups.

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Re: British Chess Championship 2024

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:12 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:24 pm
Actually, all those are wrong. They are the TPRs after round three. Will have to wait until the round 5 draw is out to see what the state of play is. But as people said at the start of the tournament, lots of norm prospects.
Shreyas Royal's current TPR: 3182 (played 2 GMs)
Svyatoslav Bazakutsa's current TPR: 2634 (played 1 GM)
Ameet Ghasi's current TPR: 2625 (played 1 GM)
Matthew Wadworth's current TPR: 2621 (played 2 GMs)
Alex Golding's current TPR: 2586 (played 1 GM and 2 IMs)
Calum Salmons's current TPR: 2580 (played 2 GMs, no IMs yet)
Mickey Adams's current TPR: 2444 (played 2 IMs and no GMs yet)

No round 5 draw yet. The top pairing is obvious. Not sure about the rest.

The number of GMs is important, as there are currently only 5 GMs in the top two score groups, and while the 5 GMs in the next score group down will bubble up, it is entirely possible to stay high up the ranking list at the end of each round and not get paired with enough GMs. Shreyas is guaranteed to play a GM (Jones) in round 5.

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Re: British Chess Championship 2024

Post by NickFaulks » Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:28 pm

Richard Bates wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:18 pm
I’m increasingly of the opinion that selectors have potentially missed a trick by not picking Shreyas for the Olympiad team.
I would guess that you are in a very large group, which includes Shreyas.
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Re: British Chess Championship 2024

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:39 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:28 pm
Richard Bates wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:18 pm
I’m increasingly of the opinion that selectors have potentially missed a trick by not picking Shreyas for the Olympiad team.
I would guess that you are in a very large group, which includes Shreyas.
To be fair, he is not yet in the top 10 for England... (will be soon, though).

Who is the youngest player to play at an Olympiad for the Open team for: (a) England; (b) anyone?

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Re: British Chess Championship 2024

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:43 pm

Have the arbiters/organisers gone to have dinner before doing the draw??

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Re: British Chess Championship 2024

Post by LawrenceCooper » Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:49 pm

Richard Bates wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:18 pm
I’m increasingly of the opinion that selectors have potentially missed a trick by not picking Shreyas for the Olympiad team.
Which 2600+ would you have left out to accommodate him though?

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