2 Bishops of the same colour

[Peter D Williams]

Has any forumite ever promoted to get 2 Bishops of the same colour on the board in an otb rated game?

[Matt Mackenzie]

Has any forumite ever promoted to get 2 Bishops of the same colour on the board in an otb rated game?

Has it ever happened in a actual non-composed game EVER, might be a better question??

I am not aware of any examples, but stand to be corrected.......

EDIT: I of course mean genuine examples, not moments of silliness like that given below

[LawrenceCooper]

Has any forumite ever promoted to get 2 Bishops of the same colour on the board in an otb rated game?

Hardly a game to be proud of but in 1991 I played the following as white against Keith Arkell in a weekend tournament:

1 e4 c6 2 d4 d5 3 ed cd 4 c4 Nf6 5 Nc3 g6 6 Qb3 Bg7 7 cd 0-0 8 g3 e6 9 de Nc6 10 ef+ Kh8 11 Nge2 Qe7 12 Qd1 Rd8 13 f8=B Bf8 14 Be3 Ng4 15 Qd2 Nce5 16 Ng1 Bh6 17 Qe2 Ne3 18 de Bg4 19 f3 Bf5 20 Kf2 Qc5 21 Qb5 Nd1+ 0-1

[Christopher Kreuzer]

For those who can't play 21 moves blindfold.

Hardly a game to be proud of but in 1991 I played the following as white against Keith Arkell in a weekend tournament:

1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. exd5 cxd5 4. c4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6 6. Qb3 Bg7 7. cxd5 0-0 8. g3 e6 9. dxe6 Nc6 10. exf7+ Kh8 11. Nge2 Qe7 12. Qd1 Rd8 13. f8=B Bf8 14. Be3 Ng4 15. Qd2 Nce5 16. Ng1 Bh6 17. Qe2 Ne3 18. dxe5 Bg4 19. f3 Bf5 20. Kf2 Qc5 21. Qb5 Nd1+
0-1

You seem to have neglected kingside development... It's a nice game to play through. Are there reasonable examples reachable from game-like positions where you would need to promote to bishop rather than another piece?

[LawrenceCooper]

For those who can't play 21 moves blindfold.

You seem to have neglected kingside development... It's a nice game to play through. Are there reasonable examples reachable from game-like positions where you would need to promote to bishop rather than another piece?

Possibly a position where promoting to a queen or rook would be stalemate.

[PeterTurland]

Has any forumite ever promoted to get 2 Bishops of the same colour on the board in an otb rated game?

Never found what you were looking for, but I did find this which I thought was rather interesting.
1. Nf3 f5 2. d4 Nf6 3. g3 g6 4. Bg2 Bg7 5. O-O O-O 6. c4 d6 7. Nc3 Nc6 8. b3 e5 9. dxe5 dxe5 10. Ba3 e4 11. Bxf8 Qxf8 12. Nd4 Nxd4 13. Qxd4 Be6 14. Qd2 h5 15. Rad1 h4 16. Qg5 Kf7 17. Qf4 Qc5 18. Nb5 hxg3 19. hxg3 Rc8 20. Nd4 Bd7 21. g4 Nxg4 22. Nxf5 Bxf5 23. Rd5 Qxd5 24. cxd5 Be5 25. Qc1 Bh2+ 26. Kh1 Rh8 27. Qc4 Bd6+ 28. Kg1 Bh2+ 29. Kh1 b5 30. Qxb5 e3 31. Bf3 Nxf2+ 32. Rxf2 exf2 33. Kg2 Bg1 34. Qc6 Rh2+ 35. Kg3 f1=N+ 36. Kf4 Rh4+ 37. Kg5 Be3+ 38. Kxh4 g5+ 39. Kh5 Ng3+

I forgot whos game it was, but I do remember them both being over 2500 ELO

[Geoff Chandler]

Tony Miles once underpromoted to a Bishop just to see if how many chess publications got it right.

Then adding that the publication in which he was annotating the game got it right. (!)

Miles - Sosonko Tilburgh 1977

r6r/pP1k2pp/4p3/5p2/3P4/5b2/P2K1PPP/1RR5 w - - 0 23

White played 23.b7xa8=B Rxa8

I found this humerous ending from a young 1104 player.

Kuehnel (1104) - Prymak (774) GER-ch U10 2004

5R2/4P3/7p/1R4pk/8/p5BP/2P2PK1/8 w - - 0 38

White played 38.e8-B Mate.

[Alex Holowczak]

Tony Miles once underpromoted to a Bishop just to see if how many chess publications got it right.

Then adding that the publication in which he was annotating the game got it right. (!)

Miles - Sosonko Tilburgh 1977

r6r/pP1k2pp/4p3/5p2/3P4/5b2/P2K1PPP/1RR5 w - - 0 23

White played 23.b7xa8=B Rxa8

Rxa8, really? Not Bxa8?

Maybe the publication paid so much attention to the underpromotion that its producer wasn't concentrating on which piece he was recapturing with?

[Ian Kingston]

Tony Miles once underpromoted to a Bishop just to see if how many chess publications got it right.

Then adding that the publication in which he was annotating the game got it right. (!)

Miles - Sosonko Tilburgh 1977

r6r/pP1k2pp/4p3/5p2/3P4/5b2/P2K1PPP/1RR5 w - - 0 23

White played 23.b7xa8=B Rxa8

Rxa8, really? Not Bxa8?

Maybe the publication paid so much attention to the underpromotion that its producer wasn't concentrating on which piece he was recapturing with?

Mega Database has the game (annotated by Ftacnik). 23...Bxa8 was played.

[Ian Stephens]

I found this humerous ending from a young 1104 player.

Kuehnel (1104) - Prymak (774) GER-ch U10 2004

5R2/4P3/7p/1R4pk/8/p5BP/2P2PK1/8 w - - 0 38

White played 38.e8-B Mate.

Hi Geoff, It would be nice to believe that this game was a Blitz finish and in the confusion Master Kuehnel looking desperately for the white Queen which had been knocked to floor, reached for the Bishop!

[Ian Stephens]

Has any forumite ever promoted to get 2 Bishops of the same colour on the board in an otb rated game?

Not I Peter, I hope I never have to either, as stalemates would be lurking presumably. Many moons ago I once under promoted to a Knight giving check and winning, when a Q or R promotion would have produced stalemate! my opponent then told me I couldnt do that, but hey I had read the rules.

[Paul McKeown]

Has any forumite ever promoted to get 2 Bishops of the same colour on the board in an otb rated game?

Has it ever happened in a actual non-composed game EVER, might be a better question??

I am not aware of any examples, but stand to be corrected.......

EDIT: I of course mean genuine examples, not moments of silliness like that given below

See http://timkr.home.xs4all.nl/chess2/minor.htm. It does happen for genuine, chess-related reasons, but very rarely. John Littlewood was on the receiving end once and lost a textbook endgame in which the bishop promotion was the only winning choice.

[Matt Mackenzie]

Yes, but none of those feature two Bishops of the same colour ON THE SAME COLOURED SQUARES......

I am aware of a handful of endgame studies in which promoting to a "same colour" bishop is the only way to win, but am still waiting for a "real" game!

[Geoff Chandler]

23...Rxa8.

I posted the fen then added the note. (der....)

I'm always getting R's and B's mixed up.

Once in this sub-position v Elaine Rutherford in an allegro game.

k7/8/8/8/8/8/5PPP/5BK1 w - - 0 1

I calculated a queenside sac attack that worked with my f1 Rook going to a1+.

Back on thread.

Hi Ian.
I can see that wee German lad taking a Bishop if there was a Queen
on the board. But he chose the Bishop when we must assume it was
standing with the other captured pieces next to a Queen.

Perhaps the Black player had the White Queen hidden in his pocket.

Staying with this theme (the kids hiding pieces.)

Kazaruian - Bastos European Gilrs U-10 Ch. 2009

Black to play.

8/8/8/7K/5b2/7k/6p1/8 w - - 0 1

White was stting on the two Black Knights.

Black played 1...g1=Q Stalemate.
Taking a Rook or another Bishop is also drawn. 1...g1=N wins
(though don't ask me to demonstrate it.)

I can find no OTB game where a player has had to take a Bishop to avoid stalemate.
Found loads of examples where a player has done it just for a laugh.
Also numerous examples where a player took a Rook as taking a Queen would Stalemate.

Gustav - Em Lasker New York Simul 1892

8/k1PK4/8/P7/8/8/8/8 w - - 0 1
White played 1.c8=R as 1.c8=Q is Stalemate. Black resigned.
White could have played 1.c8=B as he has the correct Bishop for the a-pawn.

[Alex Holowczak]

I'm always getting R's and B's mixed up.

If I ever happen to input your game, and you're playing a Lithuanian, remind me to delegate that task to someone else!