FIDE World Cup 26th August - 21st September 2011

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FIDE World Cup 26th August - 21st September 2011

Post by LozCooper » Wed May 18, 2011 5:39 pm

FIDE World Cup – Qualifiers From Europe

FIDE has forwarded to the ECU Office the official list of World Cup qualifiers from Europe. The World Cup will take place from 26th August to 21st September in Khanty Mansiysk, Russia.

QUALIFIERS for the WORLD CUP 2011

a) From World Championship Match 2010:
01. V. Anand (IND)

b) From World Cup 2009:
02. B. Gelfand (ISR)
03. R. Ponomariov (UKR)
04. V. Malakhov (RUS)
05. S. Karjakin (RUS)

c) Women’s World Champion 2010:
06. Hou Yifan (CHN)

d) Junior World Champions 2009 & 2010:
07. M. Vachier-Lagrave (FRA)
08. D. Andreikin (RUS)

d) From FIDE Rating List, 20 players, average 7/2010 & 1/2011:
09. M. Carlsen (NOR) 2820,00
10. L. Aronian (ARM) 2805,00
11. V. Topalov (BUL) 2789,00
12. V. Kramnik (RUS) 2787,00
13. A. Grischuk (RUS) 2766,50
14. S. Mamedyarov (AZE) 2766,50
15. V. Ivanchuk (UKR) 2751,50
16. T. Radjabov (AZE) 2746,00
17. H. Nakamura (USA) 2740,00
18. P. Eljanov (UKR) 2739,50
19. A. Shirov (ESP) 2735,50
20. P. Svidler (RUS) 2732,00
21. V. Gashimov (AZE) 2727,50
22. Wang Hao (CHN) 2727,50
23. P. Leko (HUN) 2725,50
24. Wang Yue (CHN) 2725,00
25. D. Jakovenko (RUS) 2722,00
26. G. Kamsky (USA) 2721,50
27. E. Bacrot (FRA) 2721,50
28. D. Navara (CZE) 2719,50

e) 46 players from European Championships 2010 & 2011

29. I. Nepomniachtchi (RUS) 2010
30. B. Jobava (GEO) 2010
31. A. Timofeev (RUS) 2010
32. Z. Efimenko (UKR) 2010
33. I. Lysyj (RUS) 2010
34. Z. Almasi (HUN) 2010
35. E. Tomashevsky (RUS) 2010
36. M. Rodshtein (ISR) 2010
37. I. Salgado Lopez (ESP) 2010
38. A. Pashikian (ARM) 2010
39. R. Mamedov (AZE) 2010
40. S. Movsesian (ARM) 2010
41. V. Akopian (ARM) 2010
42. E. Alekseev (RUS) 2010
43. S. Halkias (GRE) 2010
44. F. Berkes (HUN) 2010
45. V. Potkin (RUS) 2010
46. B. Grachev (RUS) 2010
47. B. Socko (POL) 2010
48. L. Nisipeanu (ROU) 2010
49. E. Vorobiov (RUS) 2010
50. Y. Drozdovskij (UKR) 2010
51. V. Babula (CZE) 2010
52. R. Wojtaszek (POL) 2011
53. J. Polgar (HUN) 2011
54. A. Moiseenko (UKR) 2011
55. F. Vallejo Pons (ESP) 2011
56. M. Ragger (AUT) 2011
57. S. Feller (FRA) 2011
58. N. Vitiugov (RUS) 2011
59. S. Zhigalko (BLR) 2011
60. A. Korobov (UKR) 2011
61. E. Inarkiev (RUS) 2011
62. E. Postny (ISR) 2011
63. S. Azarov (BLR) 2011
64. I. Khairullin (RUS) 2011
65. M. Kobalia (RUS) 2011
66. N. Guliyev (AZE) 2011
67. Y. Zherebukh (UKR) 2011
68. A. Riazantsev (RUS) 2011
69. V. Iordachescu (MDA) 2011
70. C. Lupulescu (ROU) 2011
71. L. McShane (ENG) 2011
72. D. Fridman (GER) 2011
73. A. Motylev (RUS) 2011
74. I. Ivanisevic (SRB) 2011

f) 19 players from Americas

g) 19 players from Asia/Oceania

g) 6 players from Africa

h) 6 nominees of the FIDE President

i) 4 nominees of the local Organising Committee

Total = 128 players

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Re: FIDE World Cup 26th August - 21st September 2011

Post by Ben Purton » Wed May 18, 2011 6:49 pm

57. S. Feller (FRA) 2011
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Re: FIDE World Cup 26th August - 21st September 2011

Post by Mick Norris » Wed May 18, 2011 6:56 pm

LozCooper wrote:FIDE World Cup – Qualifiers From Europe

FIDE has forwarded to the ECU Office the official list of World Cup qualifiers from Europe. The World Cup will take place from 26th August to 21st September in Khanty Mansiysk, Russia.

QUALIFIERS for the WORLD CUP 2011

a) From World Championship Match 2010:
01. V. Anand (IND)

b) From World Cup 2009:
02. B. Gelfand (ISR)
03. R. Ponomariov (UKR)
04. V. Malakhov (RUS)
05. S. Karjakin (RUS)

c) Women’s World Champion 2010:
06. Hou Yifan (CHN)

d) Junior World Champions 2009 & 2010:
07. M. Vachier-Lagrave (FRA)
08. D. Andreikin (RUS)

d) From FIDE Rating List, 20 players, average 7/2010 & 1/2011:
09. M. Carlsen (NOR) 2820,00
10. L. Aronian (ARM) 2805,00
11. V. Topalov (BUL) 2789,00
12. V. Kramnik (RUS) 2787,00
13. A. Grischuk (RUS) 2766,50
14. S. Mamedyarov (AZE) 2766,50
15. V. Ivanchuk (UKR) 2751,50
16. T. Radjabov (AZE) 2746,00
17. H. Nakamura (USA) 2740,00
18. P. Eljanov (UKR) 2739,50
19. A. Shirov (ESP) 2735,50
20. P. Svidler (RUS) 2732,00
21. V. Gashimov (AZE) 2727,50
22. Wang Hao (CHN) 2727,50
23. P. Leko (HUN) 2725,50
24. Wang Yue (CHN) 2725,00
25. D. Jakovenko (RUS) 2722,00
26. G. Kamsky (USA) 2721,50
27. E. Bacrot (FRA) 2721,50
28. D. Navara (CZE) 2719,50
I assume that some of these won't play (Anand, Carlsen, Kramnik must be doubts)

"3. 1. 1. Replacements – World Champion, semi-finalists of the World Cup 2009, Women's World Champion, World Junior U-20 Champions and rated players can be replaced only from the average rating list"

Do we know how far down this list Mickey Adams is?
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Re: FIDE World Cup 26th August - 21st September 2011

Post by LozCooper » Wed May 18, 2011 7:05 pm

Not yet, but I'm trying to find out on his behalf. It seems somewhat odd to use the average of July 2010 and Jan 2011 and not ones inbetween. It's probably about the only formula that would have excluded him.

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Re: FIDE World Cup 26th August - 21st September 2011

Post by Mick Norris » Wed May 18, 2011 7:34 pm

I imagine it's a hangover from when lists were 6 monthly and no-one has thought much about it :wink:

I assume his average is 2714.50 so he can't be far away

http://ratings.fide.com/toparc.phtml?cod=169
http://ratings.fide.com/toparc.phtml?cod=181
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Re: FIDE World Cup 26th August - 21st September 2011

Post by LozCooper » Wed May 18, 2011 8:09 pm

Mick Norris wrote:I imagine it's a hangover from when lists were 6 monthly and no-one has thought much about it :wink:

I assume his average is 2714.50 so he can't be far away

http://ratings.fide.com/toparc.phtml?cod=169
http://ratings.fide.com/toparc.phtml?cod=181
When you look at his ratings from September 2010 http://ratings.fide.com/id.phtml?event=400041 it does make their formula seem somewhat unfortunate for Mickey as he's been 2728, 2723, 2723, 2716 and 2726 since then.

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Re: FIDE World Cup 26th August - 21st September 2011

Post by Mick Norris » Wed May 18, 2011 9:52 pm

Allowing for those who have already qualified on the FIDE list, I have the 21st on the list as Dominguez Perez (who may be 1 of the Americas qualifiers in any event)at 2716 then Mickey next at 2714.50
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Re: FIDE World Cup 26th August - 21st September 2011

Post by LozCooper » Thu May 19, 2011 10:50 am

According to FIDE he is reserve number 3.

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Re: FIDE World Cup 26th August - 21st September 2011

Post by Mick Norris » Thu May 19, 2011 11:24 am

Have they published the list somewhere?

Neither Anand nor his challenger are likely to play in the World Cup and I assume Carlsen is still not interested in FIDE events, so number 3 should be good enough
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Re: FIDE World Cup 26th August - 21st September 2011

Post by LozCooper » Thu May 19, 2011 1:31 pm

Mick Norris wrote:Have they published the list somewhere?

Neither Anand nor his challenger are likely to play in the World Cup and I assume Carlsen is still not interested in FIDE events, so number 3 should be good enough
No, but both Michael and myself have been advised by the FIDE office that he is number 3 and we are both hopeful this will mean he is in the final list of qualifiers which should be available in mid June.

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Re: FIDE World Cup 26th August - 21st September 2011

Post by Mick Norris » Thu May 19, 2011 2:21 pm

OK, would be interesting if they told you who were numbers 1 & 2
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Re: FIDE World Cup 26th August - 21st September 2011

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Thu May 19, 2011 2:27 pm

Aren't we asking the wrong question? He voluntarily pulled out of the last World Cup, didn't he?

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Re: FIDE World Cup 26th August - 21st September 2011

Post by David Sedgwick » Thu May 19, 2011 2:33 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:Aren't we asking the wrong question? He voluntarily pulled out of the last World Cup, didn't he?
Not that I recall (although my memory may be at fault).

He pulled out of the FIDE Grand Prix when they changed the regulations and the venues halfway through.

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Re: FIDE World Cup 26th August - 21st September 2011

Post by LozCooper » Thu May 19, 2011 6:41 pm

David Sedgwick wrote:
Jonathan Rogers wrote:Aren't we asking the wrong question? He voluntarily pulled out of the last World Cup, didn't he?
Not that I recall (although my memory may be at fault).

He pulled out of the FIDE Grand Prix when they changed the regulations and the venues halfway through.
The way FIDE treat players I'm surprised far more people don't pull out of their events. I suspect the promise of a good pay-out is the only reason why most players suffer in silence.

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Re: FIDE World Cup 26th August - 21st September 2011

Post by Mick Norris » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:30 pm

http://www.fide.com/component/content/a ... -2011.html

I assume this list of qualifiers has never changed, as Feller is still in it

I do note the deadline for signing contracts was 20 June, so do we know when the list of qualifiers is to be revised to reflect the fact that some won't have signed?
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