British Senior Championships 2025

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British Senior Championships 2025

Post by Paul Habershon » Sun Aug 10, 2025 7:31 am

Ok, let's give the British Seniors a mention just before the seventh and last round.
O-50s not quite the usual cruise for Keith Arkell but he still looks at least joint favourite with Chris Baker and John Merriman vying to join him.
Merriman (5) v Baker (5)
Handley (4.5) v Arkell (5)
+4 others on 4.5

O-65s Nigel Povah favourite to win outright though he may need to win to avoid sharing:
Townsend (4.5) v Povah (5.5)
Andrew P Lewis (5) v Brooks (4.5)
+5 others on 4.5

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Re: British Senior Championships 2025

Post by Mick Norris » Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:52 am

Povah has drawn so up to Lewis

Edit Lewis has won, so joint first
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Re: British Senior Championships 2025

Post by Mick Norris » Sun Aug 10, 2025 1:57 pm

Keith has won
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Re: British Senior Championships 2025

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Sun Aug 10, 2025 3:33 pm

"Keith has won"

Equal first? Is there a tie-break?

Well done anyway.

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Re: British Senior Championships 2025

Post by Mick Norris » Sun Aug 10, 2025 3:54 pm

I meant his game

Merriman won too, so they finish level on points

I assume it's joint first, but not sure
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Re: British Senior Championships 2025

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Sun Aug 10, 2025 4:25 pm

John Merriman in the Seniors is a bit of a jolt - really doesn't seem that long ago since I played him in a county match when he was 13 and a half (and I was in my final year at university)
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Re: British Senior Championships 2025

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Sun Aug 10, 2025 5:08 pm

You were born in the same decade as my (older) brother. In a few years time, I can enter the over 50 events too. Oh dear. :shock:

(When did "over 50" become "Senior"??)

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Re: British Senior Championships 2025

Post by NickFaulks » Mon Aug 11, 2025 1:54 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 10, 2025 5:08 pm
(When did "over 50" become "Senior"??)
The theory is that if you're over 50 it is unrealistic to expect to win an open competition, so you need something else to aim for.

That is clearly true at the World level, less so it seems in England.
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Re: British Senior Championships 2025

Post by LawrenceCooper » Mon Aug 11, 2025 2:57 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 10, 2025 5:08 pm
(When did "over 50" become "Senior"??)
2014.

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Re: British Senior Championships 2025

Post by Neil Graham » Mon Aug 11, 2025 4:29 pm

The tournament has been the Seniors for long before that. When I was Tournament Director there was just one Senior Championship for over 60s. The innovation to split the event into Over 50s and over 65s has happened some time in the fairly recent past I presume to reflect, no doubt, the increasing number of players in these age brackets. When I first became involved in the British Championships in the early 1980s, the event was called the Veterans Championship which conjures up a picture of chess players chugging from London to Brighton. The entry then was a mere handful of elderly aficionados so, for example, the 1983 Veterans Championships comprised a mere 12 players - which no doubt was convenient for the all-play-all 11 round event.

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Re: British Senior Championships 2025

Post by Roger de Coverly » Mon Aug 11, 2025 4:40 pm

Neil Graham wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 11, 2025 4:29 pm
The innovation to split the event into Over 50s and over 65s has happened some time in the fairly recent past I presume to reflect, no doubt, the increasing number of players in these age brackets.

It would have been likely influenced by FIDE's decision to adopt over 50 and over 65 as cut offs for world and continental titles.

The last over 60 tournament was in 2014 with the change taking effect at Warwick University in 2015.

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Post by Simon Brown » Mon Aug 11, 2025 4:55 pm

I may be wrong, but I seem to recall in the 70s that Cutty Sark sponsored a tournament in London, including a first prize of a case of 12 bottles of whisky and single bottles for the runners-up in the Veteran’s category in each grading-limited section. My father won a bottle and a teammate from Orpington CC won the case.

Veteran was over 40.

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Re: British Senior Championships 2025

Post by Keith Arkell » Mon Aug 11, 2025 5:37 pm

NickFaulks wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 11, 2025 1:54 pm
Christopher Kreuzer wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 10, 2025 5:08 pm
(When did "over 50" become "Senior"??)
The theory is that if you're over 50 it is unrealistic to expect to win an open competition, so you need something else to aim for.

That is clearly true at the World level, less so it seems in England.
Try telling that to Ivanchuk.

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Re: British Senior Championships 2025

Post by NickFaulks » Mon Aug 11, 2025 5:59 pm

Keith Arkell wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 11, 2025 5:37 pm
Try telling that to Ivanchuk.
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Re: British Senior Championships 2025

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Mon Aug 11, 2025 6:24 pm

Neil Graham wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 11, 2025 4:29 pm
The tournament has been the Seniors for long before that. When I was Tournament Director there was just one Senior Championship for over 60s. The innovation to split the event into Over 50s and over 65s has happened some time in the fairly recent past I presume to reflect, no doubt, the increasing number of players in these age brackets. When I first became involved in the British Championships in the early 1980s, the event was called the Veterans Championship which conjures up a picture of chess players chugging from London to Brighton. The entry then was a mere handful of elderly aficionados so, for example, the 1983 Veterans Championships comprised a mere 12 players - which no doubt was convenient for the all-play-all 11 round event.
Wasn't it actually meant to be an round robin event back then (so entry presumably on a basis of "first come, first served")?
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