November FIDE Rating List

[NickFaulks]

The latest list is out and the top end is, as anticipated, completely wrong.

[Roger de Coverly]

The latest list is out and the top end is, as anticipated, completely wrong.

What do you think is wrong about it?

[Paul Cooksey]

there are significant differences with https://2700chess.com/

[Joey Stewart]

Just at a glance, erigaisi supposed to be breaking into the 2800 club, the list is showing him as losing 23 points instead?

The thing that is more surprising here is not the fide list being dodgy but it being nick who pointed it out, i thought he was firmly in their pocket.

[Leonard Barden]

Just at a glance, erigaisi supposed to be breaking into the 2800 club, the list is showing him as losing 23 points instead?

The huge error is caused by Fide claiming that Erigaisi played three classical games against every opponent in the WR Masters, and that he lost all the mythical third games (!!) including to Bodhana (!!).
Of course that only actually occurred in the final against MVL, and that was Armageddon not classical.
A massive mistake, let's see how long Fide takes to correct it.

[NickFaulks]

The thing that is more surprising here is not the fide list being dodgy but it being nick who pointed it out, i thought he was firmly in their pocket.

As so often, you are ill-informed.

[Paul Cooksey]

It looks like the error in Abdusattrov's rating is from the same event too. It might be FIDE tell us the data was submitted incorrectly.

[Alan Walton]

As Leonard mentioned the WR Masters has added an additional game for each player in each round they played, and even worse they have all been counted as a loss

Erigasi lost 29 points from this
Lagrave lost 20 points from this

(added for Paul) Abdusattorov lost 14.3 points from the error

Even Shreyas for his one round lost to Anand lost 2.1 points extra

[Roger de Coverly]

A massive mistake, let's see how long Fide takes to correct it.

It's recorded by FIDE as coming under England. Did the ECF submit the results for rating or was it the organisers directly to FIDE? It hasn't appeared on the ECF national rating site.

[NickFaulks]

This is a known bug in FRS. The worst you might say is that someone in England could have been aware of that and circumvented it, but that would be unreasonable to expect.

The error was in clear view in the provisional ( pre-publication ) calculations. In times gone by I would have warned FIDE, but I can't be bothered any more. I don't suppose they would have read the message anyway.

[NickFaulks]

November ratings now taken down. I wouldn't be surprised if someone's attention was drawn to this forum - that has happened before.

[Christopher Kreuzer]

This is a known bug in FRS. The worst you might say is that someone in England could have been aware of that and circumvented it, but that would be unreasonable to expect.

The error was in clear view in the provisional ( pre-publication ) calculations. In times gone by I would have warned FIDE, but I can't be bothered any more. I don't suppose they would have read the message anyway.

Clearly not in FIDE's pocket. Although Joey was being clumsy, he may have meant to say you (unlike most people here) have (and do) work with FIDE and on their committees, and you are willing to comment openly, which is always appreciated.

It is an embarrassing error. Who would have been responsible on the tournament side for checking the submission, the arbiter or the organiser or both?

[NickFaulks]

Although Joey was being clumsy, he may have meant to say

We all know what he meant to say. He said it and I am sure his view is shared by some other regular posters on this forum.

It is an embarrassing error. Who would have been responsible on the tournament side for checking the submission, the arbiter or the organiser or both?

As I said, you really can't point the finger of blame in that direction. FIDE have known about this bug for years and have shown no interest in fixing it. Perhaps now they will.