(Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Discuss anything you like about chess related matters in this forum.
Roger Lancaster
Posts: 2059
Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2015 2:44 pm

Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Roger Lancaster » Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:20 pm

Thanks to Tim and Roger.

User avatar
Matt Mackenzie
Posts: 6329
Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:51 pm
Location: Millom, Cumbria

Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:46 pm

Tim Spanton wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:56 pm
Mixed news from the government's coronavirus data:
Positive tests last seven days: 377,601 (up 12%)
Deaths last seven days: 801 (down 6.5%)
Patients admitted last seven days:5,925 (up 10%)
Tests conducted last seven days: 8.4m (up 12,4%)
Hmmm, deaths are a lagging indicator aren't they? Though the close correlation between the number of tests and positives is interesting.

And if Omicron behaves here as it has in SA - and yes that's an if - it will spread very quickly but start to burn itself out in weeks.

Which makes any lockdowns of even more doubtful value.
"Set up your attacks so that when the fire is out, it isn't out!" (H N Pillsbury)

Matt Bridgeman

Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Matt Bridgeman » Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:58 pm

Matt Mackenzie wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:46 pm
Tim Spanton wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:56 pm
Mixed news from the government's coronavirus data:
Positive tests last seven days: 377,601 (up 12%)
Deaths last seven days: 801 (down 6.5%)
Patients admitted last seven days:5,925 (up 10%)
Tests conducted last seven days: 8.4m (up 12,4%)
Hmmm, deaths are a lagging indicator aren't they? Though the close correlation between the number of tests and positives is interesting.

And if Omicron behaves here as it has in SA - and yes that's an if - it will spread very quickly but start to burn itself out in weeks.

Which makes any lockdowns of even more doubtful value.
You must have better information than Prof. Whitty, who told cabinet members today he can not yet determine whether cases are plateauing in South Africa, and said there is "no reliable evidence" from the nation's scientists of a peak in case rates.

One of the issues of letting it rip too long will be having hospitals having to shut and reams of front line NHS staff off sick by mid January.

User avatar
Matt Mackenzie
Posts: 6329
Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:51 pm
Location: Millom, Cumbria

Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:07 pm

I must admit I'm listening more to what people in SA are saying about it, but your mileage may vary as ever.
"Set up your attacks so that when the fire is out, it isn't out!" (H N Pillsbury)

Mick Norris
Posts: 11371
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:12 am
Location: Bolton, Greater Manchester

Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Mick Norris » Tue Dec 14, 2021 10:22 pm

Matt Mackenzie wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:07 pm
I must admit I'm listening more to what people in SA are saying about it, but your mileage may vary as ever.
Their equivalent of Chris Whitty was on Radio 5 live this afternoon

The little bit I heard she seemed to be saying that the UK couldn't draw any conclusions from South Africa, either positive or negative

South African Covid figures are a composite of Delta and Omicron, so may be misinterpreted
Any postings on here represent my personal views

NickFaulks
Posts: 9255
Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:28 pm

Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by NickFaulks » Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:12 am

Mick Norris wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 10:22 pm
Their equivalent of Chris Whitty was on Radio 5 live this afternoon
This lady?

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/ ... 0ed350a03a
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a QR code stamped on a human face — forever.

Mick Norris
Posts: 11371
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:12 am
Location: Bolton, Greater Manchester

Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Mick Norris » Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:26 am

Not sure, as I said, I only caught a bit of what she said, probably the replayed clip about 1 hour 28

There was obviously a longer section earlier, that's probably the best to listen to, but I missed that and haven't got time to find it now
Any postings on here represent my personal views

Matt Bridgeman

Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Matt Bridgeman » Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:45 am

Hastings has been cancelled;
https://hastingschess.com/hastings-icc- ... on-notice/

I think anyone testing positive today would be isolating on Christmas Day, so it will be interesting to see if there’s a drop off in positive tests in the next 10 days or not.

NickFaulks
Posts: 9255
Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:28 pm

Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by NickFaulks » Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:18 am

Matt Bridgeman wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:45 am
I think anyone testing positive today would be isolating on Christmas Day
Really?
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a QR code stamped on a human face — forever.

Wadih Khoury
Posts: 604
Joined: Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:14 pm

Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Wadih Khoury » Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:26 am

Matt Bridgeman wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:45 am
Hastings has been cancelled;
https://hastingschess.com/hastings-icc- ... on-notice/

I think anyone testing positive today would be isolating on Christmas Day, so it will be interesting to see if there’s a drop off in positive tests in the next 10 days or not.
Understandable but quite depressing.
Not many 9+ rounds tournaments in the UK that at least partially overlap with school holidays.

Matt Bridgeman

Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Matt Bridgeman » Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:42 am

It will be interesting to see if the World Rapid and Blitz Championship in Warsaw can bring bring a large international field together at Christmas and not have any Omicron issues rear their head.

It seems there’s a lot in the press today that this whole mess came from a lab originally.

Stewart Reuben
Posts: 4566
Joined: Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:04 pm
Location: writer

Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Stewart Reuben » Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:57 am

It occurs to me that some may find recent experiences of mine interesting. I am currently in Tenerife.
Monday 13 December i had great difficulty getting to sleep. I was coughing a lot and having difficulty breathing, but no high temperature.
Tuesday morning I arranged to self-isolate in my hotel. They sent breakfast from the buffet and left it outside. By then most of the symptoms had left, but I was taking no chances.
The hotel also arranged for me to have a covid test which somebody from a local pharmacy did, entering my room to take the swab.
Tuesday evening they served me dinner in the same way.
By late Wednesday morning it was established that I was free of covid, but by then I had had breakfast in my room.
The staff came to collect my used food trays. They clapped when I told them I had tested negative for covid.
In the afternoon I went for a walk in the sun.
In the evening I dined at the hotel buffet. It is quite exceptional of a Wednesday. But I didn't attend the Hastings ICC zoom meeting as I thought the decision to cancel the congress had already been made. There was a misunderstanging, but it has been cancelled.
I have wondered whether I actually had a nightmare Monday night about being unable to breathe.
Is this (Chess) Life returning to normal for me?

John Townsend
Posts: 1405
Joined: Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:26 pm

Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by John Townsend » Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:27 am

"They clapped when I told them I had tested negative for covid."

Stewart, those staff were clapping because they had just been shown the score of your game against Fischer in the Manhattan Blitz, 1963.

Stewart Reuben
Posts: 4566
Joined: Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:04 pm
Location: writer

Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Stewart Reuben » Thu Dec 16, 2021 10:34 am

John - Hissing would be more like it! I was smashed out of sight in one of the games and had an easily won king and pawn endgame in the other - which I only drew.

Paul Bloom
Posts: 69
Joined: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:34 pm

Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Paul Bloom » Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:37 pm

I now wonder about the 4NCL team event 15th/16th Jan in the south there are 34 teams min 136 players gathering . we can only wait and see the numbers by then .

Post Reply