Events in 2021

Details of upcoming UK events, please provide working links if possible.
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Events in 2021

Post by Roger de Coverly » Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:02 pm

I took a look at https://ratings.fide.com/rated_tourname ... ountry=ENG out of curiosity to see what's there.

There was a rapidplay in Hull listed for yesterday, but I rather think that's just not been removed.

Otherwise it's just the Northumbria Masters in August, the Northumberland weekender in September, Scarborough in October and the London Junior/Open in December.

Nothing notified to FIDE yet for the 4NCL, Hastings and others. Scarborough hasn't been FIDE rated in the past.

Nothing for Wales, Scotland or Ireland either.

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Re: Events in 2021

Post by David Sedgwick » Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:21 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:02 pm
There was a rapidplay in Hull listed for yesterday, but I rather think that's just not been removed.
Correct. Deletion was requested some time ago, but the FIDE Elista Office are always slow to act on such requests for some reason.
Roger de Coverly wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:02 pm
Nothing notified to FIDE yet for the 4NCL, Hastings and others.
We know the proposed dates for the 4NCL.

The Hastings Congress Committee met on Saturday, but there won't be any announcement for a few weeks.

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Re: Events in 2021

Post by Nick Burrows » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:07 pm

IOM International are hoping to hold a Major & Minor alongside the Grand Swiss but waiting on developments.

Late Oct / Early Nov

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Re: Events in 2021

Post by Adam Raoof » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:43 pm

I am doing four rapidplay events in July and August, but I would like to have 10 all play sections of 6. However FIDE would charge £70 per section to rate them!

So I think I will just stick to ECF rating these...
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Re: Events in 2021

Post by Alex McFarlane » Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:17 am

Adam Raoof wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:43 pm
FIDE would charge £70 per section to rate them!
We are happy to confirm that the FIDE Council has indeed decided "to waive rating fees for over-the-board Rapid and Blitz tournaments held in 2021 and 2022".
From the FIDE website in January!

Where did you get your figures from?

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Re: Events in 2021

Post by Adam Raoof » Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:08 am

Alex McFarlane wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:17 am
Adam Raoof wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:43 pm
FIDE would charge £70 per section to rate them!
We are happy to confirm that the FIDE Council has indeed decided "to waive rating fees for over-the-board Rapid and Blitz tournaments held in 2021 and 2022".
From the FIDE website in January!

Where did you get your figures from?
I asked the ECF....for the benefit of all, do you have a link to the page?
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Re: Events in 2021

Post by Alex McFarlane » Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:10 am

https://fide.com/news/896

FIDE has not charged for these events in years (if ever). That decision effectively extended the existing practice.

Standard play all-play-alls are expensive.

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Re: Events in 2021

Post by Wadih Khoury » Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:14 am

Adam Raoof wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:43 pm
I am doing four rapidplay events in July and August, but I would like to have 10 all play sections of 6. However FIDE would charge £70 per section to rate them!

So I think I will just stick to ECF rating these...
Can't you do it as a swiss (they'll still be playing al, but the pairing would be determined each round)?
Or more practically, why limit to 6 your sections? If all goes to plan, there will no longer be a rule of 6 in effect indoors and you can resume normal sections.

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Re: Events in 2021

Post by NickFaulks » Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:23 am

Wadih Khoury wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:14 am
Can't you do it as a swiss (they'll still be playing al, but the pairing would be determined each round)?
As a last resort, it is possible to read the Financial Rules. Silly me, why would anyone do that?

https://handbook.fide.com/chapter/Finan ... ations2021

Appendix 2.1. Rating Fees.
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Re: Events in 2021

Post by NickFaulks » Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:28 am

Adam Raoof wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:08 am
I asked the ECF....
Did you ask what FIDE would charge the ECF or what the ECF would charge you? There is no reason why they have to be the same.
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Re: Events in 2021

Post by Kevin Williamson » Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:22 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:02 pm
Otherwise it's just the Northumbria Masters in August, the Northumberland weekender in September, Scarborough in October and the London Junior/Open in December.
It'll be interesting to see if the Northumbria Masters goes ahead at the advertised venue as the Newcastle Novotel Hotel is currently being used to house asylum seekers and was the source of a recent Covid outbreak:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-56689693

The hotel's website doesn't appear to allow public bookings before 1st October.

My interest does go beyond the chess tournament as I have a long-standing reservation there in September, and am trying to find out if I need to find an alternative.

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Re: Events in 2021

Post by David Sedgwick » Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:38 pm

Adam Raoof wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:43 pm
I am doing four rapidplay events in July and August, but I would like to have 10 all play sections of 6. However FIDE would charge £70 per section to rate them!

So I think I will just stick to ECF rating these...
Alex McFarlane wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:17 am
We are happy to confirm that the FIDE Council has indeed decided "to waive rating fees for over-the-board Rapid and Blitz tournaments held in 2021 and 2022".
From the FIDE website in January!

Where did you get your figures from?
Adam Raoof wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:08 am
I asked the ECF.
NickFaulks wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:28 am
Did you ask what FIDE would charge the ECF or what the ECF would charge you? There is no reason why they have to be the same.
From the ECF website at https://www.englishchess.org.uk/pay-to- ... e-fee-new/:

"At the moment FIDE is not charging for the registration or rating of these events and so for ECF Pay To Play fee purposes they will be treated as being ordinary congresses/events ..."
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Re: Events in 2021

Post by Adam Raoof » Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:50 pm

David Sedgwick wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:38 pm
Adam Raoof wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:43 pm
I am doing four rapidplay events in July and August, but I would like to have 10 all play sections of 6. However FIDE would charge £70 per section to rate them!

So I think I will just stick to ECF rating these...
Alex McFarlane wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:17 am
We are happy to confirm that the FIDE Council has indeed decided "to waive rating fees for over-the-board Rapid and Blitz tournaments held in 2021 and 2022".
From the FIDE website in January!

Where did you get your figures from?
Adam Raoof wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:08 am
I asked the ECF.
NickFaulks wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:28 am
Did you ask what FIDE would charge the ECF or what the ECF would charge you? There is no reason why they have to be the same.
From the ECF website at https://www.englishchess.org.uk/pay-to- ... e-fee-new/:

"At the moment FIDE is not charging for the registration or rating of these events and so for ECF Pay To Play fee purposes they will be treated as being ordinary congresses/events ..."

The only reason that line is on the website is that I drew the omission to their attention!
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Re: Events in 2021

Post by Ronnie Burton » Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:20 pm

The Torbay Chess Congress
Welcome to the website of the annual Torbay Chess Congress.

Coronavirus Update

With deep regret the 2020 Congress has been cancelled because of the ongoing implications of the COVID-19 pandemic.

On a positive note, we are planning to hold the 2021 Congress on Armistice weekend (12th - 14th November). We hope to start accepting entries for the 2021 Congress around the middle of 2021.

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Re: Events in 2021

Post by Roger de Coverly » Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:52 pm

Ronnie Burton wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:20 pm
On a positive note, we are planning to hold the 2021 Congress on Armistice weekend (12th - 14th November).
If both take place as currently scheduled, for once there isn't a clash with a 4NCL weekend.

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