County Championships: ECF stages

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County Championships: ECF stages

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:48 pm

We are shortly going to be doing the draw for the national stages of the county championships. This will, naturally, involve getting in touch with the relevant people at the five regional unions to tell them who their union's sides are paired against - and to find out which sides they are nominating.

Does anyone know who the relevant contacts are?

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Re: County Championships: ECF stages

Post by Alex Holowczak » Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:01 pm

From here,
MCCU wrote:The draw for the national stages will be made in January when the National Controller knows how many teams in each section can be nominated by each union. When the union stages are complete teams' names are put into this draw according to unions' team nominations In the case of the MCCU, the union stage should be complete by the end of March 2010. After consultations with counties, the MCCU Events Director, Cyril, will nominate up to two MCCU teams for each of the sections.
So to answer your question, for the MCCU, Cyril Johnson seems to be the person you need to contact. cyriljohnson(at)yahoo(dot)co(dot)uk is shown on the County captains page of the MCCU website.

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Re: County Championships: ECF stages

Post by Neill Cooper » Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:12 pm

Withdrawn - correct information below
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Re: County Championships: ECF stages

Post by William Metcalfe » Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:58 pm

NCCU is Jim Moran details can be found on the NCCU website
I am speaking here for myself and not the NCCU which i am now president of

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Re: County Championships: ECF stages

Post by David Pardoe » Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:24 pm

I guess it`ll be mid to late March before the qualifier competitions are completed, so a while yet before details will be available...
I know the MCCU events are keenly competed, and pretty well run, generally speaking...and the MCCU website gives good coverage of the competitions.... http://www.mccu.org.uk/CountyMatches/20 ... e_news.htm

The initial question about who the Union chiefs/organisors are I think throws up an interesting question...that of communications within the UK chess hierarchy.
Maybe we need a central contacts database, with senior members of all our leading National, Union, County, Major Leagues, and Congress Organisors, junior chess, etc....along with a list of the major chess websites across the regions. I know there are many websites, but maybe keeping a note of the top 12 active websites in each Union/county area might be useful.
I browse a number of chess websites at various times for information, and many of these contain some very good content.
Communications and good publicity are key to the drive to improve awareness/support regarding the UK chess scene, and the many events it organises....I`d particularly like to see local/regional Press giving more publicity to League, Congresses, and other events....
And of course, the need for a good level of volunteers to keep the wheels turning throughout the British chess scene cannot be over stated.
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Re: County Championships: ECF stages

Post by David Lettington » Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:21 pm

The SCCU county match controller is David Smith. Details can be found at http://www.sccu.ndo.co.uk/fixt.htm

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Re: County Championships: ECF stages

Post by Mike Truran » Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:41 pm

Post withdrawn - I was just being grumpy!
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Re: County Championships: ECF stages

Post by Paul Buswell » Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:15 am

Maybe I'm missing something blindingly obvious, but isn't this - the Union and County contacts at least - exactly what the ECF Year Book is for? In which case shouldn't Mr Rudd use one as a matter of course?

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Re: County Championships: ECF stages

Post by Adam Raoof » Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:38 am

Thanks to RJH for pointing out that our own website should have this information ;-)

EACU Patrick Ribbands [email protected]
MCCU Cyril Johnson [email protected]
NCCU Jim Moran [email protected]
SCCU David Smith [email protected]
WECU Frank Kingdon (I think) [email protected]

They're all in the Yearbook and/or on Union websites. The rules are not on the current website. But they are still on the old website, at http://www.englishchess.org.uk/archive1 ... /rules.htm . That version is still current.
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Re: County Championships: ECF stages

Post by Mick Norris » Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:16 am

Perhaps whoever does the draw might read this first
http://www.sccu.ndo.co.uk/0708/matchbcf.htm#origdraw

Particularly the notes

Would be nice to see a first draw being correct, and each Union producing the right number of counties to actually play matches!
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Re: County Championships: ECF stages

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:43 am

Thankfully I have faith in Adam. But it is true that there have been a number of indefensible decisions at the QF stage in recent years, with (more than once) a default being given a an early stage (i.e, it was actually planned) in the Open section when there were actual counties who could have been given the slot without breaking any rules.

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Re: County Championships: ECF stages

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:12 pm

Thanks, everyone. The appropriate people have been emailed.

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Re: County Championships: ECF stages

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Sat Jan 30, 2010 1:33 pm

The draw, we have it:

OPEM
Prelim
Match p1 S3 v M3

First Round
Match a E1 v Winner of p1
Match b N1 v S2
Match c M1 v N2
Match d S1 v M2

Semifinals
Winner a v Winner b
Winner c v Winner d

MINOR
First round
Match a M1 v E2
Match b S1 v Hampshire
Match c E1 v S2
Match d Gloucestershire v M2

Semifinals
Winner a v Winner b
Winner c v Winner d

Under 180
First round
Match a N1 v S2
Match b E1 v M2
Match c M1 v N2
Match d S1 v Devon

Semifinals
Winner a v Winner b
Winner c v Winner d

Under 160
Preliminary
Match p1 E2 v S3
Match p2 N2 v M3

First round
Match a N1 v Winner of p1
Match b S1 v M2
Match c E1 v Winner of p2
Match d M1 v S2

Semifinals
Winner a v Winner b
Winner c v Winner d

Under 140
Preliminary
Match p1 S3 v M3
Match p2 M2 v N2

First round
Match a S1 v M1
Match b N1 v Winner of p1
Match c E1 v Winner of p2
Match d Hampshire v S2

Semifinals
Winner a v Winner b
Winner c v Winner d

Under 120
First round
Match a M1 v N2
Match b Norfolk v S2
Match c S1 v M2
Match d N1 v M3

Semifinals
Winner a v Winner b
Winner c v Winner d

Under 100
First round
Match a S2 v N2

Semifinals
M1 v Winner of match a
N1 v S1

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Re: County Championships: ECF stages

Post by Alex Holowczak » Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:22 pm

How are the number of qualifiers for each section determined? Some zones seem to get 3 qualifiers, while others have 2.

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Re: County Championships: ECF stages

Post by Adam Raoof » Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:25 pm

Alex Holowczak wrote:How are the number of qualifiers for each section determined? Some zones seem to get 3 qualifiers, while others have 2.
http://www.englishchess.org.uk/images/s ... 009-10.doc

are the rules (in .doc format).
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