Number of People Online

Technical information will be posted here, use it to ask questions too.
Post Reply
Alex Holowczak
Posts: 9315
Joined: Sat May 30, 2009 5:18 pm
Location: Oldbury, Worcestershire
Contact:

Number of People Online

Post by Alex Holowczak » Sun Jul 26, 2026 4:48 pm

Back in the olden days, by which I mean anything until a few years ago, there might be about 10 people online at once. Some people, some guests. Maybe a bot or two.

But of late, I start seeing things like this:
In total there are 74 users online :: 11 registered, 1 hidden and 62 guests (based on users active over the past 5 minutes)

I also observe a much slower performance on here than used to be in the past, which may be related to this.

I am not having a pop - I sense the same issues are befalling the ECF website collection from time-to-time.

Do we have any idea of what is causing this, and what is going on?

User avatar
Carl Hibbard
Posts: 6134
Joined: Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:05 pm
Location: Evesham

Re: Number of People Online

Post by Carl Hibbard » Sun Jul 26, 2026 4:56 pm

Looks like somebody with a grudge is paying to take us out is my guess - we are blocking a lot of places now I am sad to say.
Cheers
Carl Hibbard

User avatar
Carl Hibbard
Posts: 6134
Joined: Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:05 pm
Location: Evesham

Re: Number of People Online

Post by Carl Hibbard » Sun Jul 26, 2026 5:03 pm

Our second most popular location is not normally Brazil.
Last edited by Carl Hibbard on Sun Jul 26, 2026 6:19 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Reason: Brazil then Vietnam.
Cheers
Carl Hibbard

User avatar
Christopher Kreuzer
Posts: 10867
Joined: Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:34 am
Location: London

Re: Number of People Online

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Sun Jul 26, 2026 5:07 pm

I have heard some forums I frequent put this down to unofficial scraper bots looking for material to feed to AI models. These bots should self-identify, should respect requests to not do this, and should aim not to degrade overall server performance. But it seems they do it anyway. :(

User avatar
Carl Hibbard
Posts: 6134
Joined: Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:05 pm
Location: Evesham

Re: Number of People Online

Post by Carl Hibbard » Sun Jul 26, 2026 5:10 pm

No this is simply large volumes of requests overloading the small server and is clearly deliberate.
Cheers
Carl Hibbard

User avatar
Carl Hibbard
Posts: 6134
Joined: Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:05 pm
Location: Evesham

Re: Number of People Online

Post by Carl Hibbard » Sun Jul 26, 2026 6:20 pm

As we approach our 20 year milestone this is becoming rather hard work.
Cheers
Carl Hibbard

Alex Holowczak
Posts: 9315
Joined: Sat May 30, 2009 5:18 pm
Location: Oldbury, Worcestershire
Contact:

Re: Number of People Online

Post by Alex Holowczak » Sun Jul 26, 2026 8:14 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2026 5:07 pm
I have heard some forums I frequent put this down to unofficial scraper bots looking for material to feed to AI models.
So it isn't just chess being targeted?

User avatar
Carl Hibbard
Posts: 6134
Joined: Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:05 pm
Location: Evesham

Re: Number of People Online

Post by Carl Hibbard » Sun Jul 26, 2026 8:53 pm

This is not AI or search or crawlers - this is simply excess volume to access a forum or a topic over and over.

But 300 hundred thousand requests from Brazil for example in a single day is clearly not normal.
Cheers
Carl Hibbard

User avatar
Matt Mackenzie
Posts: 6354
Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:51 pm
Location: Millom, Cumbria

Re: Number of People Online

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Sun Jul 26, 2026 10:32 pm

Alex Holowczak wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2026 8:14 pm
Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2026 5:07 pm
I have heard some forums I frequent put this down to unofficial scraper bots looking for material to feed to AI models.
So it isn't just chess being targeted?
In short, no. All sorts of sites are getting swarmed by this stuff.
"Set up your attacks so that when the fire is out, it isn't out!" (H N Pillsbury)

User avatar
Christopher Kreuzer
Posts: 10867
Joined: Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:34 am
Location: London

Re: Number of People Online

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Sun Jul 26, 2026 11:42 pm

Well, clearly Skynet is in favour of death for humanity by a thousand (trillion?) cuts... (insert tin foil hat emoticon here).

[If you were trying to wean humanity off the internet...]

User avatar
Carl Hibbard
Posts: 6134
Joined: Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:05 pm
Location: Evesham

Re: Number of People Online

Post by Carl Hibbard » Mon Jul 27, 2026 10:19 am

I have had to take more drastic action so seems calling it out was not the best plan.
Cheers
Carl Hibbard

User avatar
John Clarke
Posts: 913
Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:07 pm

Re: Number of People Online

Post by John Clarke » Mon Jul 27, 2026 11:11 pm

For the first time ever since joining this site, I've just had a "security verification" page displayed before being allowed in. Evidently a consequence of the "more drastic action".
"The chess-board is the world ..... the player on the other side is hidden from us ..... he never overlooks a mistake, or makes the smallest allowance for ignorance."
(He doesn't let you resign and start again, either.)

User avatar
Carl Hibbard
Posts: 6134
Joined: Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:05 pm
Location: Evesham

Re: Number of People Online

Post by Carl Hibbard » Sat Aug 01, 2026 9:34 am

If anyone gets a rate limit message then please inform me and let me know what seemed to cause it.
Cheers
Carl Hibbard

Post Reply