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Certificate Expired

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 6:52 am
by Carl Hibbard
Somehow I missed the fact that the certificate was due to expire so apologies that has now been corrected.

Re: Certificate Expired

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:43 am
by JustinHorton
Can I be the first to admit that I have no idea what this means

Re: Certificate Expired

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:29 am
by Carl Hibbard
JustinHorton wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:43 am
Can I be the first to admit that I have no idea what this means
The SSL certificate "padlock" on the site is from LetsEncrypt and needs renewing every three months or so - somehow I forgot.

Re: Certificate Expired

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:42 am
by John Upham
JustinHorton wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:43 am
Can I be the first to admit that I have no idea what this means
An SSL certificate (granted by a certificate authority) enables the server (in this case an http server) to respond successfully to inbound https requests and deliver the content encrypted in a fashion determined by the "cert". http returns the content "en clair" with less overhead on the server especially for images.

The server is configured to listen on various ports such as 80 for http and 443 for https.

SSL = Secure Sockets Layer

Re: Certificate Expired

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:33 pm
by Richard Thursby
Carl Hibbard wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:29 am

The SSL certificate "padlock" on the site is from LetsEncrypt and needs renewing every three months or so - somehow I forgot.
Have you looked into automating renewing the certificate?

Separately, I wonder if there is a word for the linguistic phenomenon of which an example is still calling it an SSL certificate despite the protocol now being TLS. Maybe more learned forumites can advise?

Re: Certificate Expired

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:02 pm
by Christopher Kreuzer
Richard Thursby wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:33 pm
Carl Hibbard wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:29 am

The SSL certificate "padlock" on the site is from LetsEncrypt and needs renewing every three months or so - somehow I forgot.
Have you looked into automating renewing the certificate?

Separately, I wonder if there is a word for the linguistic phenomenon of which an example is still calling it an SSL certificate despite the protocol now being TLS. Maybe more learned forumites can advise?
Not quite that phenomenon, but an outdated article from 2006 on outdated tech speech:

https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/169114

You probably need to distinguish between people using the wrong teminology incorrectly, and an outdated term persisting because it is so well-known. I did find quite a lot of this in medical journals, as that seems to be a particular problem:

https://link.springer.com/article/10.10 ... 21-06616-9

It seems from that, that sometimes failure to update terminology is simply people being lazy (and biased).

Re: Certificate Expired

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:49 pm
by Colin Purdon
It's probably a bit loose referring to them as SSL certificates or TLS certificates, because the certificate does not determine the cryptographic method that is used.

I wonder when we'll stop talking about "dialling" phone numbers?

Re: Certificate Expired

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:29 pm
by John Upham
For some strange reason my 55 inch LG so-called "Smart" Televisual receiver running webOS is complaining that the server certificate from this place is not valid.

webOS appears to be aware of the correct date and time and has not time travelled and is therefore supplying the https client with the correct date and time.

Most peculiar.

Re: Certificate Expired

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:01 pm
by Carl Hibbard
John Upham wrote:
Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:29 pm
For some strange reason my 55 inch LG so-called "Smart" Televisual receiver running webOS is complaining that the server certificate from this place is not valid.

webOS appears to be aware of the correct date and time and has not time travelled and is therefore supplying the https client with the correct date and time.

Most peculiar.
We only get a B but the certificate is fine.

Re: Certificate Expired

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:05 pm
by Carl Hibbard
Interesting the letsencrypt root certificate expired.

Re: Certificate Expired

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:32 pm
by Carl Hibbard
John Upham wrote:
Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:29 pm
For some strange reason my 55 inch LG so-called "Smart" Televisual receiver running webOS is complaining that the server certificate from this place is not valid.

webOS appears to be aware of the correct date and time and has not time travelled and is therefore supplying the https client with the correct date and time.

Most peculiar.
Yes our certificate is fine John the software on your telly probably not so much now.

Re: Certificate Expired

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:51 pm
by John Upham
Carl Hibbard wrote:
Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:32 pm


Yes our certificate is fine John the software on your telly probably not so much now.
Despite a televisual reboot the https client still complains.

Hopefully it will fix it itself so that, once more, I can enjoy this place on a 55" 4K screen and full Dolby / DTS audio formats: what a treat!

Oh, and there is Sensurround to top it all off.

Re: Certificate Expired

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:53 pm
by Carl Hibbard
John Upham wrote:
Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:51 pm
Carl Hibbard wrote:
Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:32 pm


Yes our certificate is fine John the software on your telly probably not so much now.
Despite a televisual reboot the https client still complains.

Hopefully it will fix it itself so that, once more, I can enjoy this place on a 55" 4K screen and full Dolby / DTS audio formats: what a treat!
I have moved you into the sad group.