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For those few of us not involved in any way with junior chess, other than as opponents, is this about anything in particular or just an ego power struggle for the sake of it?David Sedgwick wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:35 amSo the latest power struggle in the ECF takes shape.
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Is it necessary to frame this in the language of power struggles or as coalitions against individuals?
My involvement in junior chess is one of running tournaments, but my limited understanding of how the ECF works is that people are free to stand for the various board-level roles, and someone should be able to put forward their vision for the future of (say) junior chess without it being defined negatively in terms of opposition to the existing office-holder.
(Surely it's OK to say: X is doing great! I can do even better!)
My involvement in junior chess is one of running tournaments, but my limited understanding of how the ECF works is that people are free to stand for the various board-level roles, and someone should be able to put forward their vision for the future of (say) junior chess without it being defined negatively in terms of opposition to the existing office-holder.
(Surely it's OK to say: X is doing great! I can do even better!)
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Certainly, but if hostility towards the present incumbent was not intended, the announcement could have been better drafted.Joseph Conlon wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:36 amand someone should be able to put forward their vision for the future of (say) junior chess without it being defined negatively in terms of opposition to the existing office-holder.
I doubt the ECF, and the BCF before it, have the track record of universities for bitter disputes over relatively minor issues, but they do flare up every so often.
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I don't think that it is.Joseph Conlon wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:36 am(Surely it's OK to say: X is doing great! I can do even better!)
Being an ECF Director is a demanding and time consuming voluntary role. Those who are doing a good job should be supported.
In the circumstances which you describe, I would hope that the new person would talk to the incumbent and try to find a way that they could both have roles which satisfied them.
It doesn't look as though that has happened or will happen in this instance.
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Yesterday's announcement apparently reflects a decision of the EJCOA Board. Whether it's supported by rank-and-file members of EJCOA is presumably another matter entirely. As David S remarks above, ECF directors "who are doing a good job should be supported".
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Speaking as someone who now has no involvement in junior chess (except randomly encouraging people), and no axe to grind, I am aware that there is a perception in some quarters that some people receive favourable treatment, and some do not.
It seems entirely natural and good that there should be contested elections for posts.
I just hope that whoever is in charge behaves correctly.
It seems entirely natural and good that there should be contested elections for posts.
I just hope that whoever is in charge behaves correctly.
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That is not my experience and I am not sure that even Alex’s detractors would accuse him of thatKevin Thurlow wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:28 pmSpeaking as someone who now has no involvement in junior chess (except randomly encouraging people), and no axe to grind, I am aware that there is a perception in some quarters that some people receive favourable treatment, and some do not.
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I suspect that the early comments relate to previous desires to deprecate the ECF maintained Coaching list and associated coaching schemes.
One of the issues most prominently mentioned was the difficulties with managing DBS checks.
I'd be curious to know how welcome was the news when it was initially received that Rob and Andrew intended to take a 180 degree view.
Maybe now that this initiative has been clearly welcomed that will help its acceptance by the DoJCaE?
I have tediously reminded persons that the full title of the Directorship is
Director of Junior Chess and Education
One of the issues most prominently mentioned was the difficulties with managing DBS checks.
I'd be curious to know how welcome was the news when it was initially received that Rob and Andrew intended to take a 180 degree view.
Maybe now that this initiative has been clearly welcomed that will help its acceptance by the DoJCaE?
I have tediously reminded persons that the full title of the Directorship is
Director of Junior Chess and Education
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Does anyone here know the composition of the EJCOA Board? I can't find it on their website.Roger Lancaster wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:38 pmYesterday's announcement apparently reflects a decision of the EJCOA Board. Whether it's supported by rank-and-file members of EJCOA is presumably another matter entirely.
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Without knowing how many of them formally compose the EJCOA Board, the list of the "team" is given atDavid Sedgwick wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:34 pmDoes anyone here know the composition of the EJCOA Board? I can't find it on their website.
https://ejogguide.co.uk/about/ejcoa-team
So that's
Chairman
Rob Willmoth
Vice-Chairman
Tim Wall
General Secretary
David Knight
Head Coaches
Lorin D’Costa (FIDE Senior Trainer)
Andrew Martin (FIDE Senior Trainer)
Women’s Chess Representative
Aga Milewska
Safeguarding Representative
John Hipshon
Social Media Representative
Margareta Pislariu
Compliance and Risk Representative
Mark Josse
Finance Representative
David Knight
Website Manager
Michael Bennett
Northern Counties Coaching Representatives
David Levens
Ben Rich
Peter Cloudsdale
Southern Counties Coaching Representatives
Andrew Varney
Tomer Eden
Kamlesh Karia
West of England Coaching Representative
Nick Butland
East of England Coaching Representatives
Adam Hunt
Trevor Tolentino
Isle of Wight Representative
John Wrench
Committees:
Junior Chess Committee
John Foley
Amanda Hipshon
Simon Berry
Adult Chess Committee
Steve Westmoreland
Ben Harte
Online Chess Committee
Adam Raoof
Nigel Towers
Alecos Ethelontis
Complaints Committee
Adam Raoof
David Okike
Rupa Prasad
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So that's not the answer to the question which I asked.Roger de Coverly wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:45 pmWithout knowing how many of them formally compose the EJCOA Board, the list of the "team" is given atDavid Sedgwick wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:34 pmDoes anyone here know the composition of the EJCOA Board? I can't find it on their website.
https://ejogguide.co.uk/about/ejcoa-team
So that's ...