British Championship Congress 2022

Details of upcoming UK events, please provide working links if possible.
Leonard Barden
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Re: British Championship Congress 2022

Post by Leonard Barden » Mon Aug 22, 2022 3:44 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 3:28 pm
Final results for the Major Open in effect show the qualifiers for next year's British.

The Indian player in joint first place may not be eligible to play in the Championship.
It's very important for the 5.5/9 scorers whether he is or isn't, but Battersea Chess Club are celebrating on Twitter the success of their captain and champion, so they presumably believe he is. What makes you think otherwise, Roger?

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Re: British Championship Congress 2022

Post by J T Melsom » Mon Aug 22, 2022 4:03 pm

I am now confused because Roger's post no longer includes the section quoted by Leonard. I thought posts could only be edited if they had not been quoted, although I've also had the sense of posts being edited in the period I've been reading them, getting to the end and then seeing a longer version. (I've done some tweaking myself) but can somebody clarify what is meant to happen. Leonard's question was relevant to Roger's original post, but Roger no longer questions the eligibility of the player concerned.

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Re: British Championship Congress 2022

Post by Tim Harding » Mon Aug 22, 2022 4:27 pm

Nick Ivell wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:33 am
Let me be frank about the Keres. It is simply bad for Black. Lack of space and an unsafe king are a toxic combination.

John gained in the above game from the redundant Rg1 (it was only a Keres by transposition). Even so, he was worse and I bet he felt uncomfortable. I cannot tell you how many times I have had that feeling in the Schev!

White then committed the cardinal sin of blocking the K-side, so game over.
Thanks Nick. Maybe you did not see the comments to the game I posted on the actual day of that game?
6 Rg1 was not necessarily bad and may have surprised John. If White had castled queenside instead of defending the e-pawn there were some brilliancies available should John have taken on e4 (I doubt he would have done). None of John's later and more high-rated opponents gave him any trouble so far as I could see.

PS: Has anything been announced or even mooted about a venue or dates for the 2023 British Championships?
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Re: British Championship Congress 2022

Post by Ian Thompson » Mon Aug 22, 2022 4:34 pm

J T Melsom wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 4:03 pm
I am now confused because Roger's post no longer includes the section quoted by Leonard. I thought posts could only be edited if they had not been quoted,
No. Posts can always be edited.
J T Melsom wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 4:03 pm
can somebody clarify what is meant to happen. Leonard's question was relevant to Roger's original post, but Roger no longer questions the eligibility of the player concerned.
The way it's supposed to work is:
  • If no-one else has posted then a poster can alter their post however they like and there will be no record that it was changed.
  • If someone else has posted then a poster can alter their post however they like but there will be a record that it was changed. It will say how many times it has been edited and when (but not what the changes were).
There's a flaw in this approach though:
  • Leonard started writing his post and quoted Roger's original post.
  • Roger then updated his post before Leonard had finished writing his.
  • Leonard then posted his with a now out-of-date quote of Roger's original post.
In this case Roger's update will not record any changes because there were no new posts when he did it.

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Re: British Championship Congress 2022

Post by J T Melsom » Mon Aug 22, 2022 4:41 pm

Ian

Thanks! This is exactly my experience. I have started drafting a reply to one version of a post, but not usually quoted it, and then discovered it has changed. It might explain one particularly confusing dispute with David Sedgwick where I commented on a post or version of it that was no longer there, but that incident is easy to recall not necessarily unique.

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Re: British Championship Congress 2022

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Re: British Championship Congress 2022

Post by J T Melsom » Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:20 pm

Nice to see Matthew Carr's efforts marked by an award. I don't recall this award being made before - does it commemorate somebody?

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Re: British Championship Congress 2022

Post by Ian Thompson » Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:44 pm

Brendan O'Gorman wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:15 pm
Prize-giving pix https://brendanogorman.smugmug.com/Ches ... iving-2022
There's a mistake on the caption for Aaravamudhan Balaji - he was U18 champion, not U21.

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Re: British Championship Congress 2022

Post by Roger de Coverly » Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:55 pm

Leonard Barden wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 3:44 pm
What makes you think otherwise, Roger?

I looked him up under the name he was being paired as at the British and there was no ECF rating record. I then noticed that he had an ECF rating code, so checked that and his domestic record appeared. If I had checked the FIDE code, that no doubt would have signalled 4NCL participation.

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Re: British Championship Congress 2022

Post by Alex McFarlane » Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:56 pm

J T Melsom wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:20 pm
Nice to see Matthew Carr's efforts marked by an award. I don't recall this award being made before - does it commemorate somebody?
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Richard Boxall Salver. I'll leave others to give details on Dick's contribution to chess but the trophy, from memory, goes back to the mid to late 80s and is awarded to a member of the control team as an award for their service.

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Re: British Championship Congress 2022

Post by Ian Thompson » Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:01 pm

Joey Stewart wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:00 pm
I don't know who won yet but it would be a miscarriage of justice if Grieve-Gormally doesn't win best game of the tournament - the tactics in that one were immortal game level so unless there was an absolute beauty hidden away on the lower boards this one is the clear best.
This game won:


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Re: British Championship Congress 2022

Post by J T Melsom » Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:06 pm

Alex

Thank you. An excellent tradition.

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Re: British Championship Congress 2022

Post by Brendan O'Gorman » Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:11 pm

Ian Thompson wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:44 pm
Brendan O'Gorman wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:15 pm
Prize-giving pix https://brendanogorman.smugmug.com/Ches ... iving-2022
There's a mistake on the caption for Aaravamudhan Balaji - he was U18 champion, not U21.
Thanks Ian. I've corrected the caption. Also the caption to the photo of the girls u18 champion. I hadn't realised that Harry Grieve was also the u21 champion.

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Re: British Championship Congress 2022

Post by JustinHorton » Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:51 pm

Ian Thompson wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:01 pm
Joey Stewart wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:00 pm
I don't know who won yet but it would be a miscarriage of justice if Grieve-Gormally doesn't win best game of the tournament - the tactics in that one were immortal game level so unless there was an absolute beauty hidden away on the lower boards this one is the clear best.
This game won:

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Re: British Championship Congress 2022

Post by Joey Stewart » Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:15 pm

That is a really unnatural looking attack - looks like something straight out of stockfish
Lose one queen and it is a disaster, Lose 1000 queens and it is just a statistic.