"History of Lancashire Chess" by Mike Conroy
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"History of Lancashire Chess" by Mike Conroy
A lovely overview of Mike Conroy's book by James Pratt, with mentions of this forum's Nick Ivell:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV_BfQdLEOo&t=4s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV_BfQdLEOo&t=4s
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Re: "History of Lancashire Chess" by Mike Conroy
Conroy did a fantastic job with this volume.
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Re: "History of Lancashire Chess" by Mike Conroy
I see there's a copy of this book being offered for sale on ebay for £77.
As someone born in Lancashire, I enjoyed James Pratt's ramble through this book, which I haven't seen. Perhaps not surprisingly, it doesn't sound as though it includes anything on the formation of other county associations, including Greater Manchester County Chess Association (which I joined in 1976 as board 3 for their junior team) nor about the subsequent relationship with GMCCA.
As someone born in Lancashire, I enjoyed James Pratt's ramble through this book, which I haven't seen. Perhaps not surprisingly, it doesn't sound as though it includes anything on the formation of other county associations, including Greater Manchester County Chess Association (which I joined in 1976 as board 3 for their junior team) nor about the subsequent relationship with GMCCA.
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Re: "History of Lancashire Chess" by Mike Conroy
£52 incl postage here:John Swain wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:42 amI see there's a copy of this book being offered for sale on ebay for £77.
https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/Sear ... re%20Chess
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Re: "History of Lancashire Chess" by Mike Conroy
"Perhaps not surprisingly, it doesn't sound as though it includes anything on the formation of other county associations, including Greater Manchester County Chess Association (which I joined in 1976 as board 3 for their junior team) nor about the subsequent relationship with GMCCA."
You probably need someone from elsewhere to write that! (Or someone fearless from the area...)
You probably need someone from elsewhere to write that! (Or someone fearless from the area...)
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Re: "History of Lancashire Chess" by Mike Conroy
You wouldn't expect Conroy to be a fan of Greater Manchester!
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Re: "History of Lancashire Chess" by Mike Conroy
I'll post what I wrote on Facebook's British Chess News:Nick Ivell wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:42 pmYou wouldn't expect Conroy to be a fan of Greater Manchester!
"Without reading Mike's book, criticism would be extremely unfair. I remember Mike well from my junior days in Bolton. He helped a lot of Lancashire junior players. I think (like myself) Mike was a History teacher. Clearly, a history of anything should be a balanced "warts and all" objective account, rather than a "Highlights of ..." However, whether an objective account of the Lancashire v GMCCA saga could be composed is another matter entirely."
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Re: "History of Lancashire Chess" by Mike Conroy
"However, whether an objective account of the Lancashire v GMCCA saga could be composed is another matter entirely."
So you either need someone who wasn't involved, in which case they probably wouldn't follow all the nuances, or you need someone from both sides each writing their piece and the audience can try to follow the argument. The latter gives up on objectivity, but at least you get both sides.
As we know, "recollections may vary".
So you either need someone who wasn't involved, in which case they probably wouldn't follow all the nuances, or you need someone from both sides each writing their piece and the audience can try to follow the argument. The latter gives up on objectivity, but at least you get both sides.
As we know, "recollections may vary".
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Re: "History of Lancashire Chess" by Mike Conroy
indeed but it a bit one side and i don't know why lancashire is scared of Manchester?Kevin Thurlow wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:23 pm"However, whether an objective account of the Lancashire v GMCCA saga could be composed is another matter entirely."
So you either need someone who wasn't involved, in which case they probably wouldn't follow all the nuances, or you need someone from both sides each writing their piece and the audience can try to follow the argument. The latter gives up on objectivity, but at least you get both sides.
As we know, "recollections may vary".
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Re: "History of Lancashire Chess" by Mike Conroy
It probably all goes back to Edward Heath, if anyone remembers him.John Reyes wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 10:24 pmindeed but it a bit one side and i don't know why lancashire is scared of Manchester?
Back in the early 1970s, there were reorganisations of local government, so that some cities and metropolitan areas became counties in their own right. That wasn't just Greater Manchester, but also Cleveland (Teeside), Avon (Bristol), West Midlands (Birmingham etc) and Merseyside (Liverpool). Even before that in the 1960s, the Greater London council had been formed.
The NCCU allowed new counties in the form of Merseyside and Cleveland to exist, but not Greater Manchester. Elsewhere in the country, Bristol coninued to be divided between Somerset and Gloucester, West Midlands between Warwick, Staffordshire and Worcester and Greater London betweem Middlesex, Surrey, Kent, Essex and Herts