31st World Seniors 2023 Wed 25th Oct 2023 - Sun 5th Nov 2023

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Re: 31st World Seniors 2023 Wed 25th Oct 2023 - Sun 5th Nov 2023

Post by Tim Harding » Sun Nov 05, 2023 5:22 pm

I did expect Mickey would win somehow.
There have been quite a few developments and I've updated my site.
The top board in the 50+ seems to have been agreed drawn as soon as they saw the Adams result so there will be a tiebreak between Atalik and Adams which, I suppose, can only be calculated at the end.
Ftacnik has beaten Campora so they finish on 8.5 and 8 respectively. John Nunn is one of four players who can also reach 8.5 to force a tiebreak.

Terry Chapman has lost and Nona has won but she cannot get a medal.

John Nunn has just won so I have to update again...
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Re: 31st World Seniors 2023 Wed 25th Oct 2023 - Sun 5th Nov 2023

Post by Mick Norris » Sun Nov 05, 2023 7:24 pm

Chess results has John Nunn in first
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Re: 31st World Seniors 2023 Wed 25th Oct 2023 - Sun 5th Nov 2023

Post by Richard Bates » Sun Nov 05, 2023 7:39 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 7:24 pm
Chess results has John Nunn in first
And Mickey.

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Re: 31st World Seniors 2023 Wed 25th Oct 2023 - Sun 5th Nov 2023

Post by Tim Harding » Sun Nov 05, 2023 8:09 pm

I saw that though I would prefer to have independent confirmation before updating my website, e.g., from someone who is actually there.

It's not surprising that John is ahead of Ftacnik whose loss came to the Norwegian FM in round 4, so John was generally meeting people slightly ahead.
It's curious that they didn't actually meet in this tournament.
If Campora had drawn then he would have been champion on head-to-head I think?

Mickey had a much narrower tiebreak advantage, so I'm not sure what made the difference.

In the women's R+N beat R again (on board 4) according to Lichess. It looks as if Black must have lost on time,

EDIT: That was after White's move 133. But now Lichess is showing the game continuing after all...

Atalik didn't make any effort to win with White to Godena. Maybe he was under the impression that tiebreaks would favour him because he was leading. He has only himself to blame anyway.
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Re: 31st World Seniors 2023 Wed 25th Oct 2023 - Sun 5th Nov 2023

Post by Tim Harding » Sun Nov 05, 2023 8:36 pm

This is ridiculous. In the Krasenkowa-Folkova game, White (with R+N v R) did win after all.
At move 145 Black blundered a mate in 3 but the opponent didn't see it.
So Black gave her another opportunity next move.
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Re: 31st World Seniors 2023 Wed 25th Oct 2023 - Sun 5th Nov 2023

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Sun Nov 05, 2023 10:21 pm

"This is ridiculous. In the Krasenkowa-Folkova game, White (with R+N v R) did win after all.
At move 145 Black blundered a mate in 3 but the opponent didn't see it.
So Black gave her another opportunity next move."

Maybe she was tired?

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Re: 31st World Seniors 2023 Wed 25th Oct 2023 - Sun 5th Nov 2023

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:27 am

The ECF have announced on their news feed:

Double World Senior Chess Champions!

The byline is by Nigel Povah, who was playing in the 65+ event.

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Re: 31st World Seniors 2023 Wed 25th Oct 2023 - Sun 5th Nov 2023

Post by Mick Norris » Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:07 am

Congratulations to England’s Michael Adams and John Nunn, who both became World Senior chess champions yesterday in Terrasini, Sicily, Italy. Despite both being the top seeds in their respective sections, neither had it all their own way.
Michael Adams (pictured on the right) won the 50+ age group, in what proved to be a very strong, competitive field, which included sixteen grandmasters. Adams won with 8½ from 11 and was undefeated and just edged ahead on tiebreak from Serbian grandmaster Suat Atalik who also scored 8.5. This was Adams first-ever individual world title and is well deserved for someone who has been ever-present at the top of World Chess for over 30 years.
John Nunn (pictured on the left) also scored 8½ from 11, thus enabling him to retain the 65+ world senior title he won last year. Nunn also won on tiebreak from Slovakian GM Lubomir Ftacnik, in what was another strong field with ten grandmasters. Although Nunn lost one game, after slipping up in a winning position, his overall play was impressive as always, and he emerged as the deserved winner.
These two successes at the seniors level are further evidence of England’s growing reputation as a leading nation at seniors chess, after our recent successes at both World and European Senior Team Chess Championships.
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Re: 31st World Seniors 2023 Wed 25th Oct 2023 - Sun 5th Nov 2023

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:31 am

Great news! The west country has two world champions...

If you include John's problem solving titles, he is now a five-time world champion (unless I have missed some...)

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Re: 31st World Seniors 2023 Wed 25th Oct 2023 - Sun 5th Nov 2023

Post by Roger de Coverly » Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:43 am

Kevin Thurlow wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:31 am
Great news! The west country has two world champions...
Cornwall even. Adams by birth, Nunn by residence.

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Re: 31st World Seniors 2023 Wed 25th Oct 2023 - Sun 5th Nov 2023

Post by Owen Phillips » Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:53 am

Great double achieved by Mickie Adams and John Nunn!!

Many Congratulations. Mickie finished with a very fine win and john managed a win and then got the right results as well to place him on the top by tie split!
Bad Luck Terry-he put up another stella performance!
ATB, Owen.

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Re: 31st World Seniors 2023 Wed 25th Oct 2023 - Sun 5th Nov 2023

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:52 pm

"he put up another stella performance!"

Now I don't know if that's a typo for "stellar", or if he were fuelled by lager!

Mickey still lives in SW, just a bit further East I believe.

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Re: 31st World Seniors 2023 Wed 25th Oct 2023 - Sun 5th Nov 2023

Post by Tim Harding » Mon Nov 06, 2023 4:18 pm

My report is now rewritten (subject to any corrections you may notify) and the calendar page etc are also updated:

http://www.chessmail.com/index.html
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