Heb also wins so a 3.5-0.5 win for England 1 (allegedly).Nick Burrows wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:41 pmI'm with you. England 1 won the match, and Hebden is also winning.LawrenceCooper wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:31 pmI'm fairly confident in what I posted, not least because all the openings matched what I would expect from the four pairings.
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I'd like to thank those (there were more than one) who advised me not to go to this event.
I didn't envisage that trying to follow it from home would be equally problematic.
I didn't envisage that trying to follow it from home would be equally problematic.
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Re: World Senior Teams 19 to 30 June 2022
To state the obvious - what a total and utter shambles!
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Re: World Senior Teams 19 to 30 June 2022
From chess-results:
Bo. 1 England 1 Rtg - 8 England 2 Rtg 3½: ½
1.1 GM Adams, Michael 2690 - GM Flear, Glenn C 2402 ½ - ½
1.2 GM Short, Nigel D 2617 - FM Dishman, Stephen 2250 1 - 0
1.3 GM Hebden, Mark L 2465 - FM Duncan, Chris R 2199 1 - 0
1.4 GM Emms, John M 2481 - Frostick, Clive A 2120 1 - 0
Bo. 7 SC Kreuzberg Rtg - 2 England 1 Rtg ½ :3½
2.1 IM Glienke, Manfred, Dr. 2213 - GM Nunn, John D M 2568 0 - 1
2.2 FM Simon, Ralf-Axel 2115 - IM Littlewood, Paul E 2342 0 - 1
2.3 FM Bachmann, Andreas 2192 - IM Povah, Nigel E 2201 0 - 1
2.4 Sprotte, Norbert 2155 - Snape, Ian L 2127 ½ - ½
Bo. 1 England 1 Rtg - 8 England 2 Rtg 3½: ½
1.1 GM Adams, Michael 2690 - GM Flear, Glenn C 2402 ½ - ½
1.2 GM Short, Nigel D 2617 - FM Dishman, Stephen 2250 1 - 0
1.3 GM Hebden, Mark L 2465 - FM Duncan, Chris R 2199 1 - 0
1.4 GM Emms, John M 2481 - Frostick, Clive A 2120 1 - 0
Bo. 7 SC Kreuzberg Rtg - 2 England 1 Rtg ½ :3½
2.1 IM Glienke, Manfred, Dr. 2213 - GM Nunn, John D M 2568 0 - 1
2.2 FM Simon, Ralf-Axel 2115 - IM Littlewood, Paul E 2342 0 - 1
2.3 FM Bachmann, Andreas 2192 - IM Povah, Nigel E 2201 0 - 1
2.4 Sprotte, Norbert 2155 - Snape, Ian L 2127 ½ - ½
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Re: World Senior Teams 19 to 30 June 2022
The England 1 positions also changed completely yesterday. They went back to normal after I refreshed the site and the same thing worked today. However, I can see that it could be a bit of a facer if you arrive at the site when the wrong positions are up.
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Re: World Senior Teams 19 to 30 June 2022
Now that the results and pairings are up on chess-results.com we can see that actually England 1 won the match 3.5-0.5, with Adams the player who didn't win.
In view of today's nonsense I am not going to attempt to watch future rounds live but I shall (probably tomorrow) be complaining about this fiasco on my Chess Mail website.
As I said earlier, anything organised by arcoworldchess is liable to be problematic.
I am still hoping the 2022 World Seniors Individual championships will be held, and if so I may go, but that will be the last time I play in any event they run.
ADDED: I see that something I said earlier (because of the mistakes on the live website) is also in need of correction. In the 65+ top match, Hungary actually beat Israel 3.5-0.5 and England-1 won by the same margin. Nunn and Littlewood actually won their games.
In view of today's nonsense I am not going to attempt to watch future rounds live but I shall (probably tomorrow) be complaining about this fiasco on my Chess Mail website.
As I said earlier, anything organised by arcoworldchess is liable to be problematic.
I am still hoping the 2022 World Seniors Individual championships will be held, and if so I may go, but that will be the last time I play in any event they run.
ADDED: I see that something I said earlier (because of the mistakes on the live website) is also in need of correction. In the 65+ top match, Hungary actually beat Israel 3.5-0.5 and England-1 won by the same margin. Nunn and Littlewood actually won their games.
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Why not ask the Irish Chess Union to complain to FIDE?Tim Harding wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:12 pmIn view of today's nonsense I am not going to attempt to watch future rounds live but I shall (probably tomorrow) be complaining about this fiasco on my Chess Mail website.
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Re: World Senior Teams 19 to 30 June 2022
I think that is up to the players present if they come back with complaints, but no Irish match has been shown live yet and probably none will be.
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At least that means they can't mess it up.Tim Harding wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:51 pmbut no Irish match has been shown live yet and probably none will be.
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Round 3 on 2022/06/22 at 15.00
Bo. 4 Iceland Rtg - 1 England 1 Rtg 0 : 0
1/1 GM Olafsson, Helgi (w) 2511 - GM Adams, Michael (b) 2690
1/2 GM Hjartarson, Johann (b) 2472 - GM Short, Nigel D (w) 2617
1/3 GM Petursson, Margeir (w) 2450 - GM Hebden, Mark L (b) 2465
1/4 GM Arnason, Jon L (b) 2412 - GM Arkell, Keith C (w) 2390
Bo. 2 USA Rtg - 5 Italia 1 Rtg 0 : 0
2/1 GM Kaidanov, Gregory (w) 2557 - GM David, Alberto (b) 2520
2/2 GM Shabalov, Alexander (b) 2495 - GM Godena, Michele (w) 2479
2/3 GM Ehlvest, Jaan (w) 2517 - GM Garcia Palermo, Carlos (b) 2415
2/4 IM Sokolin, Leonid (b) 2464 - IM Borgo, Giulio (w) 2353
Bo. 6 Hungary Rtg - 3 Georgia Winery Khareba Rtg 0 : 0
3/1 GM Horvath, Jozsef (w) 2429 - GM Sturua, Zurab (b) 2530
3/2 GM Varga, Zoltan (b) 2398 - GM Giorgadze, Giorgi (w) 2584
3/3 GM Horvath, Peter (w) 2396 - GM Bagaturov, Giorgi (b) 2413
3/4 IM Krizsany, Laszlo (b) 2377 - GM Gaprindashvili, Nona (w) 2270
Bo. 4 Iceland Rtg - 1 England 1 Rtg 0 : 0
1/1 GM Olafsson, Helgi (w) 2511 - GM Adams, Michael (b) 2690
1/2 GM Hjartarson, Johann (b) 2472 - GM Short, Nigel D (w) 2617
1/3 GM Petursson, Margeir (w) 2450 - GM Hebden, Mark L (b) 2465
1/4 GM Arnason, Jon L (b) 2412 - GM Arkell, Keith C (w) 2390
Bo. 2 USA Rtg - 5 Italia 1 Rtg 0 : 0
2/1 GM Kaidanov, Gregory (w) 2557 - GM David, Alberto (b) 2520
2/2 GM Shabalov, Alexander (b) 2495 - GM Godena, Michele (w) 2479
2/3 GM Ehlvest, Jaan (w) 2517 - GM Garcia Palermo, Carlos (b) 2415
2/4 IM Sokolin, Leonid (b) 2464 - IM Borgo, Giulio (w) 2353
Bo. 6 Hungary Rtg - 3 Georgia Winery Khareba Rtg 0 : 0
3/1 GM Horvath, Jozsef (w) 2429 - GM Sturua, Zurab (b) 2530
3/2 GM Varga, Zoltan (b) 2398 - GM Giorgadze, Giorgi (w) 2584
3/3 GM Horvath, Peter (w) 2396 - GM Bagaturov, Giorgi (b) 2413
3/4 IM Krizsany, Laszlo (b) 2377 - GM Gaprindashvili, Nona (w) 2270
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Round 3 on 2022/06/22 at 15.00
Bo. 2 England 1 Rtg - 5 Germany 2 Rtg 0 : 0
1/1 GM Nunn, John D M (w) 2568 - GM Meister, Jakob (b) 2415
1/2 IM Littlewood, Paul E (b) 2342 - IM Klundt, Klaus (w) 2295
1/3 FM Stebbings, Anthony J (w) 2297 - IM Salov, Sergej (b) 2169
1/4 IM Povah, Nigel E (b) 2201 - FM Herbrechtsmeier, Christof (w) 2143
Bo. 6 Hungary Rtg - 3 Germany 1 Rtg 0 : 0
2/1 IM Hardicsay, Peter (w) 2192 - GM Knaak, Rainer (b) 2479
2/2 FM Glatt, Gabor (b) 2243 - IM Chevelevitch, Evgueni, Dr. (w) 2369
2/3 IM Vegh, Endre (w) 2225 - FM Kiefer, Gerhard (b) 2212
2/4 IM Szabolcsi, Janos (b) 2233 - Kierzek, Matthias (w) 2224
Bo. 4 France Rtg - 1 Israel 1 Rtg 0 : 0
3/1 GM Vaisser, Anatoly (w) 2477 - GM Gruenfeld, Yehuda (b) 2423
3/2 IM Roos, Louis (b) 2288 - GM Bykhovsky, Avigdor (w) 2384
3/3 IM Boudre, Jean-Pierre (w) 2255 - IM Berkovich, Mark A (b) 2337
3/4 IM Giffard, Nicolas (b) 2238 - IM Maryasin, Boris (w) 2273
Bo. 2 England 1 Rtg - 5 Germany 2 Rtg 0 : 0
1/1 GM Nunn, John D M (w) 2568 - GM Meister, Jakob (b) 2415
1/2 IM Littlewood, Paul E (b) 2342 - IM Klundt, Klaus (w) 2295
1/3 FM Stebbings, Anthony J (w) 2297 - IM Salov, Sergej (b) 2169
1/4 IM Povah, Nigel E (b) 2201 - FM Herbrechtsmeier, Christof (w) 2143
Bo. 6 Hungary Rtg - 3 Germany 1 Rtg 0 : 0
2/1 IM Hardicsay, Peter (w) 2192 - GM Knaak, Rainer (b) 2479
2/2 FM Glatt, Gabor (b) 2243 - IM Chevelevitch, Evgueni, Dr. (w) 2369
2/3 IM Vegh, Endre (w) 2225 - FM Kiefer, Gerhard (b) 2212
2/4 IM Szabolcsi, Janos (b) 2233 - Kierzek, Matthias (w) 2224
Bo. 4 France Rtg - 1 Israel 1 Rtg 0 : 0
3/1 GM Vaisser, Anatoly (w) 2477 - GM Gruenfeld, Yehuda (b) 2423
3/2 IM Roos, Louis (b) 2288 - GM Bykhovsky, Avigdor (w) 2384
3/3 IM Boudre, Jean-Pierre (w) 2255 - IM Berkovich, Mark A (b) 2337
3/4 IM Giffard, Nicolas (b) 2238 - IM Maryasin, Boris (w) 2273
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Re: World Senior Teams 19 to 30 June 2022
I am not going to try to watch Seniors live games today after what happened yesterday - and anyway there is the Candidates to enjoy.
But I will look later to see if anyone comments on whether they have fixed the issues.
Meanwhile I have posted a page about the Senior Teams which kicks off with a good moan:
http://www.chessmail.com/seniors/Senior-Teams2022.html
I wonder who was the arbiter who made the blunder of posting the round 2 draw prematurely? Fortunately it was fixed in the end,
But I will look later to see if anyone comments on whether they have fixed the issues.
Meanwhile I have posted a page about the Senior Teams which kicks off with a good moan:
http://www.chessmail.com/seniors/Senior-Teams2022.html
I wonder who was the arbiter who made the blunder of posting the round 2 draw prematurely? Fortunately it was fixed in the end,
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Re: World Senior Teams 19 to 30 June 2022
Looking very good for the over 50's. Arkell drew, England are better in the other 3 games.
In the over 65's. Stebbings drew, Littlewood has a bad position, the remaining 2 are balanced.
In the over 65's. Stebbings drew, Littlewood has a bad position, the remaining 2 are balanced.
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In the over 65's we have 3 draws, and Nunn is considering this position:
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Nunn drew for a 2-2 result