Chris Majer returns!

General discussions about ratings.
Richard Haddrell

Re: Chris Majer returns!

Post by Richard Haddrell » Sun May 22, 2011 1:30 pm

Richard Bates wrote:Doesn't everyone know that the Rapidplay list is a bit of a joke?
How so?

Richard Bates
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Re: Chris Majer returns!

Post by Richard Bates » Sun May 22, 2011 2:10 pm

Richard Haddrell wrote:
Richard Bates wrote:Doesn't everyone know that the Rapidplay list is a bit of a joke?
How so?
Too many D and E grades, which are statistically very dubious. That's not to count people who don't appear on the list at all because they don't play enough. OK, so i admit i'm only focussing on the top players and don't know about the rest of the list. I don't think people pay enough attention to what the different categories of grades mean and tend to treat all grades as of equal value, which they aren't.

Top 100:

Standard play has 6D, 8E, Rapidplay has 39D, 25E.

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Re: Chris Majer returns!

Post by Mick Norris » Sun May 22, 2011 3:25 pm

Richard

I think congress organisers would tell you that strong players prefer long-play and weaker players rapidplay (based on numbers of tournament entries in different sections)

Hence if you think the grading list is a joke for strong players in rapid (because they play too few games) the same would apply to weaker players in the main list
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Re: Chris Majer returns!

Post by John Upham » Sun May 22, 2011 5:53 pm

Just to put the proverbial cat amongst the pigeons : could you imagine a time when the preferred model of playing evening league chess was by a pair of rapid-play games where a pair of players had two games with each other with say a 15 minute intermission for socialising etc?

Is there a fundamental tenet that requires us to play one standard-play game (maybe the colours were decided by tossing or they were pre-determined on a home/away basis) with the game ending in an unpleasant time scramble or a civilised incremental finish?

Is this prospect a total non-goer?
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Sean Hewitt

Re: Chris Majer returns!

Post by Sean Hewitt » Sun May 22, 2011 6:08 pm

John Upham wrote:Just to put the proverbial cat amongst the pigeons : could you imagine a time when the preferred model of playing evening league chess was by a pair of rapid-play games where a pair of players had two games with each other with say a 15 minute intermission for socialising etc?

Is there a fundamental tenet that requires us to play one standard-play game (maybe the colours were decided by tossing or they were pre-determined on a home/away basis) with the game ending in an unpleasant time scramble or a civilised incremental finish?

Is this prospect a total non-goer?
We already have this format in Leicestershire for our Summer Team competitions.

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Re: Chris Majer returns!

Post by Alex Holowczak » Sun May 22, 2011 7:14 pm

John Upham wrote:Just to put the proverbial cat amongst the pigeons : could you imagine a time when the preferred model of playing evening league chess was by a pair of rapid-play games where a pair of players had two games with each other with say a 15 minute intermission for socialising etc?

Is there a fundamental tenet that requires us to play one standard-play game (maybe the colours were decided by tossing or they were pre-determined on a home/away basis) with the game ending in an unpleasant time scramble or a civilised incremental finish?

Is this prospect a total non-goer?
There's a London Rapidplay League that runs to this format. The idea has been tentatively suggested as a summer competition around here by one or two people. I certainly think it's worth trying.