Re: Euro 21
Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:05 pm
Spain - "good games"??
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I take your point, but it is made more interesting because they have to win or go home.
Or as Mick McCarthy put it "No regrets, none at all. My only regret is that we went out on penalties. That's my only regret. But no, no regrets"NickFaulks wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:21 pmI take your point, but it is made more interesting because they have to win or go home.
True, but they could hardly rely on that. They played on the basis that they had to win, which they quite convincingly did.
Agreed. A dramatic end to a group that when I first saw the teams I half expected France, Germany and Portugal to finish on five points by drawing with each other and beating Hungary.NickFaulks wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:05 pmVery disappointed for Hungary. It would have been brilliant if the Germans had gone out, even from a group where England would have done well to finish last.
Orban will be gutted though, which makes it more bearable.NickFaulks wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:05 pmVery disappointed for Hungary. It would have been brilliant if the Germans had gone out, even from a group where England would have done well to finish last.
Orban allows his people to play chess and to go on holiday. Johnson doesn't. I know which one I think is the authoritarian.Matt Mackenzie wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:35 pmOrban will be gutted though, which makes it more bearable.
Johnson has done the same thing - in theory his powers have to be renewed every so often, but with a totally compliant Parliament that is automatic.The difference is that Orban is using his powers with rather less brutality towards his own people.JustinHorton wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:49 amAs Orbán used the pandemic to allow himself to rule by decree for an indefinite period (legislation passed March 30 last year) that is not a particularly convincing conclusion.
Are you able to source that? I am far from sure I know what you're referring to.NickFaulks wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:00 amJohnson has done the same thingJustinHorton wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:49 amAs Orbán used the pandemic to allow himself to rule by decree for an indefinite period (legislation passed March 30 last year) that is not a particularly convincing conclusion.
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