Changing political landscape

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Matt Bridgeman
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Changing political landscape

Post by Matt Bridgeman » Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:40 am

With Trump fairly certain to go in January, I was surprised to hear that Putin may also be stepping down the same month due to early onset Parkinson’s. Although the Kremlin is so far denying the quite widely reported story ...while Putin is laying the ground work this week signing an order that no ex-president can ever be prosecuted! Perhaps 12 months from now there could well be no Boris (rumours only there so far), no Trump and no Putin in power.

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Re: Changing political landscape

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Sat Nov 07, 2020 3:25 am

Moved to Not Chess!

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Re: Changing political landscape

Post by John McKenna » Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:03 am

Don't get your hopes up - Recep Tayyip Erdogan is still throwing his weight around and Xi Jin Ping rules the roost.

Blessed are the peacemakers...

"Abiy Ahmed won a Nobel peace prize. Now Ethiopia is on the brink of civil war"

https://mg.co.za/africa/2020-11-04-anal ... civil-war/
To find a for(u)m that accommodates the mess, that is the task of the artist now. (Samuel Beckett)

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Re: Changing political landscape

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:04 pm

There is of course an argument that Henry Kissinger getting the Nobel peace prize discredited it for ever more :mrgreen:
"Set up your attacks so that when the fire is out, it isn't out!" (H N Pillsbury)

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Re: Changing political landscape

Post by MJMcCready » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:26 pm

Well, his reasons of support for the invasion of Vietnam were about as flimsy as it gets.

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Re: Changing political landscape

Post by NickFaulks » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:53 pm

Matt Mackenzie wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:04 pm
There is of course an argument that Henry Kissinger getting the Nobel peace prize discredited it for ever more :mrgreen:
I think that defined the Nobel Peace Prize. I said when Aung San Sui Kyi was offered the prize that she should decline it. It was not worthy of her.
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Re: Changing political landscape

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:59 pm

"I said when Aung San Sui Kyi was offered the prize that she should decline it. It was not worthy of her."

And now she is not worthy of it...

Also Obama got it for winning an election.

The problem is that awards are subjective.

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Re: Changing political landscape

Post by Richard Thursby » Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:33 pm

Far too many Nobel Peace Prize winners have a chequered past. I always find it quite ironic (if that's the correct use of the word!?) that someone who won the prize for their efforts towards Middle East peace also ordered the deadliest terrorist attack in Jerusalem in the twentieth century. Someone they shared the prize with paid with their life as a result of their peace efforts.

However, if you dig into most people's lives you'll find skeletons (with the exception of the extremely influential person John McKenna quoted above).

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Re: Changing political landscape

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:08 am

Kevin Thurlow wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:59 pm
Also Obama got it for winning an election
To be more precise, he got it for not being George W Bush.
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