Will the County Championship go ahead

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MartinCarpenter
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Re: Will the County Championship go ahead

Post by MartinCarpenter » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:26 am

Interesting to see what happens. There's definitely a pragmatic case for sticking as close to the extant status quo as possible - any time the boundaries change significantly you lose established players, and they can be hard to replace even if you've got a theoretically large playing pool.

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Re: Will the County Championship go ahead

Post by Mick Norris » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:47 am

Yes, my initial thought was that Option 3 might be best for that reason; will be interesting to see what is agreed
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Kevin Thurlow
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Re: Will the County Championship go ahead

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:59 am

"There's definitely a pragmatic case for sticking as close to the extant status quo as possible - any time the boundaries change significantly you lose established players, and they can be hard to replace even if you've got a theoretically large playing pool."

Yes.

Jon Underwood
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Re: Will the County Championship go ahead

Post by Jon Underwood » Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:14 pm

David Gilbert wrote:
Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:23 pm
IM Jack Rudd wrote:
Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:26 pm
I don't think it'll affect WECU much either way; our counties don't have large enough player bases for this to matter.
Maybe, but Devon and other smaller counties might have an interest. They often enter teams in the Minor. This has been a competition for teams with an average grade of 180. Under these choices option 1 becomes an average 2000 (174) tournament, option 2 increases the average to 2100 (187) while under option 3 it remains at 2050 (180).
I'm not sure. 180 was about as high as we could get in the absence of a FIDE titled player for board one. OTOH moving down to 173 equivalent would be good for some of the smaller counties. I've argued for a few years now that there should be three mutually exclusive first team competitions, Open, Major (average sub 2100 perhaps) and Minor (maybe average sub 1950).

The present setup and all the ones proposed give nothing realistic for the smaller counties to aim for, but I haven't found anyone in a position to do anything about it want to give it a try. It is rather frustrating...

Nick Grey
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Re: Will the County Championship go ahead

Post by Nick Grey » Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:28 pm

will be good to hear from bigger and smaller counties and unions. I think some established players will play less.

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Re: Will the County Championship go ahead

Post by Mick Norris » Sat May 08, 2021 4:51 pm

I gather option 2 won the day
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David Gilbert
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Re: Will the County Championship go ahead

Post by David Gilbert » Sat May 08, 2021 11:33 pm

It was option 3. In the end agreed by 38 votes to 7. Open, U2050, U1850, U1650, U1450.

Mick Norris
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Re: Will the County Championship go ahead

Post by Mick Norris » Sun May 09, 2021 7:41 am

Ok, thank David, I realise there was a typo in the email I received
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Re: Will the County Championship go ahead

Post by Mick Norris » Tue May 11, 2021 10:15 am

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Simon Rogers
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Re: Will the County Championship go ahead

Post by Simon Rogers » Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:15 pm

Hopefully it will go ahead especially as a number of clubs like us, Preston and Lytham St.Annes have new members since we have reopened.

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