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It is lovely, Nick. Both of my parents kept all their press cuttings and chess photos (we have quite a collection!) and as a family, we treasure them. Mum was, and remains, an inspiration to myself, to my sisters and to her grandchildren. It's hard to imagine now but it really was unusual for a 'mere' woman to play in congresses in those days, or play chess at all for that matter. Smiling, Mum would tell us stories about some of the men becoming really annoyed if she beat them. Thankfully, times have changed.NickFaulks wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:22 amYes, it is wonderful that these pictures and articles have been preserved. You would think this is much easier in the internet age, but we can only hope that turns out to be true.
If you were a chess player you would know that that aspect of playing chess has not changed.Ingrid Ives wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:51 amSmiling, Mum would tell us stories about some of the men becoming really annoyed if she beat them. Thankfully, times have changed.
That's interesting to hear, but also quite sad. I didn't know.Ian Thompson wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:15 pmIf you were a chess player you would know that that aspect of playing chess has not changed.Ingrid Ives wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:51 amSmiling, Mum would tell us stories about some of the men becoming really annoyed if she beat them. Thankfully, times have changed.
Perhaps a journalist not understanding move rates. It could have been 40 in two hours for adults and 36 in 90 minutes for juniors. But this was the eraly 1950s, so perhaps the move rates were not as set in stone as they might have appeared fifteen years or so ater when I first encountered them. If it was a Congress then 20 per hour and 24 per hour for juniors in the adjourned sessions.Reg Clucas wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:51 pmOne thing I noticed in the report of the event at Thoresby High School - "The players must make at least 20 moves every hour....Juniors are allowed an extra four moves."
I noticed that and assumed it meant 24 moves in an hour for juniors.Reg Clucas wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:51 pmOne thing I noticed in the report of the event at Thoresby High School - "The players must make at least 20 moves every hour....Juniors are allowed an extra four moves." The word 'allowed' is a bit puzzling - it seems to imply a concession - does this mean they only had to make 16 moves? It would be more appropriate if they had to make extra moves!
Thank you so much for posting this information. It would have meant so much to Mum to have known one of Ronnie's games was online. I'll be sure to share this with my family, some of whom do play chess.John Saunders wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 1:06 pmFascinating material - thanks very much for sharing.
The Yorkshire Chess History website has a biographical record for Ronnie and Cobie Ives: https://mannchess.org.uk/People/Ives,Ro ... Jacoba.htm
There is one game played by Ronnie Ives at BritBase.info
Again, thank you so much for posting this. If it's not too much trouble, I would love to see a scan or photo of what you have? I don't think we have any material from before my parents were married in 1948.Peter Shaw wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 3:58 pmI have some old Wakefield Chess Club minute books where she is mentioned a couple of times. There are a couple of newspaper cuttings of Woodhouse Cup results from 1947 before she was married. Miss Rosema lost both games, to Miss G Wilson and SC Wheuay. Then in the 1951 AGM minutes it is recorded that she finished in 'second place in a second class section at Ilford'. Meanwhile in the same minutes Mr Ives won the Kitchin correspondence tournament.