Re: Candidates 2019
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:14 pm
2017 European Champion and World Blitz Champion.
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2017 European Champion and World Blitz Champion.
Also world junior champion 2003. All in pretty impressive, except maybe by the standards of her predecessors as the Georgian number one woman
That comment (about marrying male GMs) doesn't come across too well, Jonathan...Jonathan Rogers wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:58 amAdmittedly I did not know all of that, so thank you, but we probably guessed already that she was good! Does anyone know anything remotely personal about her? Perhaps she is the only East European contender not to have married a male GM? something like that.
The big crunch game could be v. Goryachkina.Mick Norris wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:40 pmtweet
Kazan, Russia, from 29 May
Interesting line up
Players: Hou Yifan, Anna and Mariya Muzychuk, Ekaterina Lagno, Alexandra Kosteniuk, Tan Zhongyi, Nana Dzagnidze, Valentina Gunina.
Reserve Aleksandra Goryachkina.
"Dancing, walking, reading, playing with kids and… 4.5 hours of chess per day!" – this is Nana Dzagnidze's motto.Jonathan Rogers wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:24 pmNor am I asking for any personal revelations. Just anything at all. The same goes for all the competitors, but it is natural to ask about the leader.
It would be interesting to see that research. I was concerned at the implication that a statistically significant proportion of those that are doing well had married a male GM, and the implication that there might be some cause and effect there (i.e. if you want to improve your chess, form a relationship with someone stronger than you at chess). More likely, of course, is that people who enjoy the same pastime/sport/career get together, and the existing disproportion carries over.Jonathan Rogers wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:24 pmYou protest too much. There is nothing wrong or discreditable with marrying GMs (well, some GMs....) and many of the top East European women seem to have done so. In a light hearted way one might say that those who haven't do stand out. If research proves me wrong, so be it ...
That's the sort of thing, yes - well, it's a start!Nick Burrows wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:40 pm"Dancing, walking, reading, playing with kids and… 4.5 hours of chess per day!" – this is Nana Dzagnidze's motto.Jonathan Rogers wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:24 pmNor am I asking for any personal revelations. Just anything at all. The same goes for all the competitors, but it is natural to ask about the leader.
We have a new tournament leader.Jonathan Rogers wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:57 pmThat's the sort of thing, yes - well, it's a start!Nick Burrows wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:40 pm"Dancing, walking, reading, playing with kids and… 4.5 hours of chess per day!" – this is Nana Dzagnidze's motto.Jonathan Rogers wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:24 pmNor am I asking for any personal revelations. Just anything at all. The same goes for all the competitors, but it is natural to ask about the leader.
There might be a cause and effect and that would be interesting. Although come to think of it, I am not aware of any past world champion with a GM partner. But I certainly didn't mean to imply that anyone deliberately hooked an elite GM into marriage for career advancement, no!Christopher Kreuzer wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:52 pmIt would be interesting to see that research. I was concerned at the implication that a statistically significant proportion of those that are doing well had married a male GM, and the implication that there might be some cause and effect there (i.e. if you want to improve your chess, form a relationship with someone stronger than you at chess).Jonathan Rogers wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:24 pmYou protest too much. There is nothing wrong or discreditable with marrying GMs (well, some GMs....) and many of the top East European women seem to have done so. In a light hearted way one might say that those who haven't do stand out. If research proves me wrong, so be it ...
Assuming we are discussing two competitive chess playing partners, maybe and that would be interesting too. Grishuck seems unaffected. I believe that Shirov has written quite a bit on his marriages but I haven't read any of it - has anyone here?Christopher Kreuzer wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:52 pm
More likely, of course, is that people who enjoy the same pastime/sport/career get together, and the existing disproportion carries over.
Maybe marrying someone worse than you at chess has the opposite effect!
Ah yes.LawrenceCooper wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:05 pmWe have a new tournament leader.Jonathan Rogers wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:57 pmThat's the sort of thing, yes - well, it's a start!Nick Burrows wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:40 pm
"Dancing, walking, reading, playing with kids and… 4.5 hours of chess per day!" – this is Nana Dzagnidze's motto.
ProfileJonathan Rogers wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:10 pmAh yes.LawrenceCooper wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:05 pmWe have a new tournament leader.Jonathan Rogers wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:57 pm
That's the sort of thing, yes - well, it's a start!
Anyone know anything about Aleksandra Goryachkina, then?