Women's In-Tournament Training

[Louise Sinclair]

They don't get any concessions at the tourney I'm responsible for - not so much as a glass of beer.The entry fee for the Sam Black is £10 and our first prize will be £120 this year. That seems to be incentive enough judging by our entries from Gms and IMs.
As for women they are very welcome to play and I apply equality across the board re entry fee and conditions for all players.
NCCL Tournament Director

[Ben Purton]

They Look like very good events also.

[Gary Cook]

GMs are given free entry/incentives because they are GMs and as such bring the tournament some prestige, unfortunately the same cannot be said of women (unless of course they are GMs as well) - all you are saying is that they are lesser than the men that enter and in need of some assistance

[Ben Purton]

Don't know how you have interpolated that but ok

[Gary Cook]

Don't know how you have interpolated that but ok

Ben
Which part?

[Ben Purton]

Well Just because I support incentives for someone to enter does not mean I think they are less than another person. Thats your personal view taken from the situation.

[Gary Cook]

As I said earlier why would lower (no) entry fees encourage more women to play than if they had had to pay the normal (men's) entry fee?
If this did encourage more women then the only thing you could take from it is that they want the chance to play subsidised chess.

[Louise Sinclair]

I can easily afford entry fees for chess - not all women are poor. I can pay for them from my winnings at poker. However reduced or no entry fees won't encourage me to play.
However if someone gagged the politically correct diversity lobby and offered me a very comfortable adjustable chair I might be encouraged to enter an occasional event

[Sabrina Chevannes]

Hi everyone.

I started this post to advertise an event which I thought was going to be beneficial.

I am a manager of WOMEN's chess so it is my duty to run events for women, hence I am doing so. Some women, and I say some, feel intimidated by the ratio of men to women and are deterred to play. I have been asking various women on their feeling about the chess world in order to do the best I can for the female chess players in England.

Sean's offer of free entry was a kind one and he felt that by doing this it might encourage more women to play. It is not all about money, but for example, if a female player WAS bothered by the environment, AND they had to pay an entry fee, then they might see it as paying to be in conditions they don't enjoy. However, if it was free, it would be more appealing.

I am not saying that having free entry will solve things, not at all. But it is nice that this is done and has obviously attracted more women to the tournament. The fact Jovanka and I are also running training there might also be the reason, but whatever it is, Sean's tournament is full and more people are playing chess and that is what we want!

I do like girls events just as they feel more social as girls bond at these events as there are more there! I don't see any of this as discrimination or negative in any way. I have had many great positive comments about this training and what things Jovi and I are doing for women's chess, so that is nice. All I am concerned about is getting more girls playing and ENJOYING chess.

And yes if girls are scared about playing with so many men, then they may not have what it takes to make it all the way to the top as they will have to face them at some point! But hopefully what we are doing is building events that will boost their confidence and they can grow with time. I don't see any negative points about this, but that's just me.

If someone can highlight the negative impact these girls events might have, please do let me know as I would like to address them if I can.

[David Grobler]

Hi everyone.

I started this post to advertise an event which I thought was going to be beneficial.

I am a manager of WOMEN's chess so it is my duty to run events for women, hence I am doing so. Some women, and I say some, feel intimidated by the ratio of men to women and are deterred to play. I have been asking various women on their feeling about the chess world in order to do the best I can for the female chess players in England.

Sean's offer of free entry was a kind one and he felt that by doing this it might encourage more women to play. It is not all about money, but for example, if a female player WAS bothered by the environment, AND they had to pay an entry fee, then they might see it as paying to be in conditions they don't enjoy. However, if it was free, it would be more appealing.

I am not saying that having free entry will solve things, not at all. But it is nice that this is done and has obviously attracted more women to the tournament. The fact Jovanka and I are also running training there might also be the reason, but whatever it is, Sean's tournament is full and more people are playing chess and that is what we want!

I do like girls events just as they feel more social as girls bond at these events as there are more there! I don't see any of this as discrimination or negative in any way. I have had many great positive comments about this training and what things Jovi and I are doing for women's chess, so that is nice. All I am concerned about is getting more girls playing and ENJOYING chess.

And yes if girls are scared about playing with so many men, then they may not have what it takes to make it all the way to the top as they will have to face them at some point! But hopefully what we are doing is building events that will boost their confidence and they can grow with time. I don't see any negative points about this, but that's just me.

If someone can highlight the negative impact these girls events might have, please do let me know as I would like to address them if I can.

Well said Sabrina.....I applaud you......

[Brendan O'Gorman]

What a palaver over such a small matter!

If it's the case that women are put off playing because they are vastly outnumbered by men (and I can well believe that it is), why not offer them free entry and special coaching? This two pronged approach sends out the message that women are welcome and there will be two women present specifically to look after them.

This isn't positive discrimination in the sense of reserving limited benefits for a disadvantaged minority. Only X people can be admitted to this education course, rent this social housing, or be hired for this job, and Y% of the resource has been reserved for members of a minority - is the kind of positive discrimination that ought to be scrutinised closely.

If I am denied entry to one of Sean's congresses because the only remaining places are reserved for women, I shall not be happy and shall acquire an unhealthy interest in my legal rights under the Sex Discrimination Act. Meanwhile, I wish Sabrina and Jovanka well.

[Brendan O'Gorman]

Carl - I notice my last post has been censored by the system. I referred to an Act of the UK Parliament, but the first word in the title has been turned into all lower case letters and the second letter of the word has been replaced by an asterisk. This is childish, isn't it?

[IM Jack Rudd]

Carl - I notice my last post has been censored by the system. I referred to an Act of the UK Parliament, but the first word in the title has been turned into all lower case letters and the second letter of the word has been replaced by an asterisk. This is childish, isn't it?

I've managed to get around the problem with the judicious use of gratuitous BBCode in the middle of the word in question.

[Carl Hibbard]

Carl - I notice my last post has been censored by the system. I referred to an Act of the UK Parliament, but the first word in the title has been turned into all lower case letters and the second letter of the word has been replaced by an asterisk. This is childish, isn't it?

Not me for once, I am missing something - all looks ok?

[IM Jack Rudd]

Carl - I notice my last post has been censored by the system. I referred to an Act of the UK Parliament, but the first word in the title has been turned into all lower case letters and the second letter of the word has been replaced by an asterisk. This is childish, isn't it?

Not me for once, I am missing something - all looks ok?

I amended it for him - I know how to get round swear-filters.