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Olympiad dates change

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:27 pm
by JustinHorton
From 17-30 September to 1-14, apparently.

Why? Currently we are not being favoured with a reason.

Re: Olympiad dates change

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:49 pm
by Roger de Coverly
JustinHorton wrote: Why? Currently[/url] we are not being favoured with a reason.
Speculation or conspiracy is that it's designed to trouble the USCF and the Sinquefield Cup Saint Louis, USA scheduled for August 19 – September 2, 2016 .

As it's only an overlap with the first couple of days of the Olympiad, any team with only one Sinquefield player at least on paper could run on four players for the first couple of rounds. It's potentially a problem for Russia as well, but none of their potential players are absolutely as critical to medal chances as having all of Nakamura, Caruana and So playing for the US.

Re: Olympiad dates change

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 1:49 pm
by Mick Norris
Not great for anyone who has already made definite plans with work, family, travel etc

Re: Olympiad dates change

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 1:53 pm
by JustinHorton
Quite.

Re: Olympiad dates change

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:01 pm
by LawrenceCooper
Mick Norris wrote:Not great for anyone who has already made definite plans with work, family, travel etc
The clash with the World Youth is also far from ideal, from an England perspective Akshaya could be left having to choose between the two.

Re: Olympiad dates change

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:25 pm
by Steven DuCharme
Choice is the essence of chess

Re: Olympiad dates change

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:42 pm
by David Sedgwick
Roger de Coverly wrote:Speculation or conspiracy is that it's designed to trouble the USCF and the Sinquefield Cup Saint Louis, USA scheduled for August 19 – September 2, 2016.
In my cynical way, that was my first thought.

However, as Lawrence Cooper has pointed out, the new dates for the Olympiad coincide with the scheduled dates of the World Youth Championships in Khanty-Mansisyk. FIDE are now faced with a choice between bearing the pain of that clash, which would be very problematic, or rescheduling the World Youth Championships also.

It’s hard to believe that sabotaging the Grand Chess Tour is truly an objective of FIDE, let alone one for which they would go to such lengths.

Re: Olympiad dates change

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:55 pm
by NickFaulks
David Sedgwick wrote: It’s hard to believe that sabotaging the Grand Chess Tour is truly an objective of FIDE, let alone one for which they would go to such lengths.
Agreed, it seems far more likely that this is a problem emanating from Baku - given what is going on there, probably not the biggest one.

Re: Olympiad dates change

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:06 pm
by Christopher Kreuzer
NickFaulks wrote:
David Sedgwick wrote: It’s hard to believe that sabotaging the Grand Chess Tour is truly an objective of FIDE, let alone one for which they would go to such lengths.
Agreed, it seems far more likely that this is a problem emanating from Baku - given what is going on there, probably not the biggest one.
What problems are these? Something affecting the population/city as a whole, or just the chess finance/organising side?

Re: Olympiad dates change

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:18 pm
by NickFaulks
Christopher Kreuzer wrote: What problems are these?
The economy is dependent upon oil production and the currency has halved in value. The IMF have been in for discussions.

Re: Olympiad dates change

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:24 pm
by Christopher Kreuzer

Re: Olympiad dates change

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:29 pm
by Roger de Coverly
NickFaulks wrote: The economy is dependent upon oil production and the currency has halved in value. The IMF have been in for discussions.
So is it a similar problem to Norway in 2012, they cannot afford to finance it in the manner promised? Had they previously announced a venue? If they are moving to a cheaper building, that may explain the date change.

Re: Olympiad dates change

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 5:53 pm
by Mick Norris
It was all going fine in December
FIDE inspection visit

Re: Olympiad dates change

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 6:23 pm
by LawrenceCooper
The dates for the World Youth have now disappeared from the FIDE calendar: http://www.fide.com/calendar/fide-calendar.html

Re: Olympiad dates change

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 8:19 am
by LawrenceCooper
LawrenceCooper wrote:The dates for the World Youth have now disappeared from the FIDE calendar: http://www.fide.com/calendar/fide-calendar.html
New ones now published: http://www.fide.com/component/content/a ... dates.html

"The 2016 World Youth Championship has changed its dates to 20 September - 4 October 2016."