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England (Active players)

# Name Title Fed Rating G B-Year
1 Adams, Michael g ENG 2738 5 1971
2 McShane, Luke J g ENG 2672 0 1984
3 Jones, Gawain C B g ENG 2671 6 1987
4 Howell, David W L g ENG 2670 0 1990
5 Short, Nigel D g ENG 2660 8 1965
6 Sadler, Matthew D g ENG 2658 0 1974
7 Nunn, John D M g ENG 2601 0 1955
8 Pert, Nicholas g ENG 2562 0 1981
9 Hawkins, Jonathan g ENG 2550 9 1983
10 Haslinger, Stewart G g ENG 2526 2 1981
11 Parker, Jonathan F g ENG 2519 0 1976
12 Speelman, Jon S g ENG 2501 0 1956
13 Gordon, Stephen J g ENG 2500 0 1986
14 Hebden, Mark L g ENG 2498 9 1958
15 Arkell, Keith C g ENG 2497 9 1961
15 Gormally, Daniel W g ENG 2497 9 1976
17 Conquest, Stuart C g ENG 2491 0 1967
18 Plaskett, H James g ENG 2475 0 1960
19 Ghasi, Ameet K m ENG 2471 0 1987
20 Trent, Lawrence m ENG 2470 0 1986
21 Emms, John M g ENG 2462 0 1967
22 Zhou, Yang-Fan m ENG 2461 9 1994
23 Flear, Glenn C g ENG 2460 0 1959
24 Wells, Peter K g ENG 2457 8 1965
25 Palliser, Richard J D m ENG 2444 0 1981
26 Pert, Richard G m ENG 2443 0 1981
27 Hunt, Harriet V m ENG 2438 0 1978
28 Hunt, Adam C m ENG 2437 0 1980
29 D`Costa, Lorin A R m ENG 2430 0 1984
30 Williams, Simon K g ENG 2429 9 1979
31 Eggleston, David J m ENG 2424 9 1987
32 Ward, Chris G g ENG 2423 0 1968
33 Adair, James R m ENG 2421 9 1992
34 McDonald, Neil g ENG 2415 9 1967
34 Ferguson, Mark m ENG 2415 0 1977
34 Levitt, Jonathan P g ENG 2415 0 1963
37 Mah, Karl C C m ENG 2411 0 1980
38 Roberson, Peter T m ENG 2406 3 1989
39 Ashton, Adam G f ENG 2398 0 1980
40 Ledger, Andrew J m ENG 2396 0 1969
41 Lawton, Geoff W m ENG 2389 0 1960
42 Houska, Jovanka m ENG 2388 8 1980
43 Collinson, Adam R f ENG 2383 0 1972
44 Ansell, Simon T m ENG 2379 0 1975
45 Rendle, Thomas E m ENG 2378 0 1986
46 Martin, Andrew D m ENG 2375 0 1957
47 Quillan, Gary m ENG 2367 0 1970
48 Cox, John J m ENG 2361 9 1962
49 Kilpatrick, Callum f ENG 2350 0 1992
50 Merry, Alan B f ENG 2349 9 1996
50 Bates, Richard A m ENG 2349 0 1979
52 Buckley, Simon T ENG 2345 0 1985
53 Pein, Malcolm m ENG 2344 0 1960
54 Ciuksyte, Dagne m ENG 2340 0 1977
55 Buckley, Graeme N m ENG 2339 9 1971
55 Longson, Alexander f ENG 2339 0 1982
57 Bellin, Robert m ENG 2338 0 1952
58 Duncan, Chris R f ENG 2336 0 1970
59 Richardson, John R f ENG 2334 9 1964
60 Basman, Michael J m ENG 2330 5 1946
61 Dorrington, Chris J ENG 2329 0 1987
62 Taylor, Martin R f ENG 2328 0 1981
63 Berry, Stephen H f ENG 2327 0 1951
63 Cooper, Lawrence H m ENG 2327 0 1970
65 Crouch, Colin S m ENG 2325 0 1956
66 Povah, Nigel E m ENG 2324 0 1952
66 Stebbings, Anthony J f ENG 2324 0 1951
68 Harvey, Marcus R f ENG 2322 0 1996
69 Bisby, Daniel L f ENG 2318 0 1978
70 Kirk, Ezra f ENG 2316 9 1996
70 Knott, Simon J B m ENG 2316 0 1958
72 Jackson, James P f ENG 2313 8 1991
73 Batchelor, Peter J ENG 2312 4 1996
74 Rose, Matthew ENG 2309 0 1962
75 Sowray, Peter J f ENG 2308 18 1959
76 Sanders, Isaac B f ENG 2305 9 1998
77 Bigg, Andrew J f ENG 2303 2 1982
78 Franklin, Samuel G A f ENG 2301 0 1994
79 Walker, David J f ENG 2295 0 1964
80 Beaumont, Chris R m ENG 2292 0 1952
80 Cooksey, Paul S f ENG 2292 0 1971
82 Dickenson, Neil F f ENG 2289 0 1964
83 Kenworthy, Gary f ENG 2285 0 1957
84 Constantinou, Peter f ENG 2284 9 1988
85 Eckersley-Waites, Tom ENG 2282 0 1987
85 Haydon, David L f ENG 2282 0 1988
87 Webb, Laurence E f ENG 2281 1 1970
88 Alfred, Nathan S W f ENG 2277 0 1980
88 Rogers, Jonathan W f ENG 2277 0 1972
90 Buckley, David E ENG 2269 0 1979
91 Ledger, Dave J f ENG 2268 9 1967
91 Eckersley-Waites, Adam ENG 2268 0 1987
91 Thomas, Nicholas f ENG 2268 0 1966
91 Wheeler, Darren P ENG 2268 0 1971
95 Mackle, Dominic ENG 2267 0 1962
96 Lewis, Andrew P f ENG 2266 0 1960
97 Savage, Ben D M f ENG 2265 0 1977
98 Fernandez, Michael f ENG 2264 9 1999
98 Lund, D Brett ENG 2264 0 1962
100 Williams, Samuel G ENG 2263 0 1987

England (Active players) Only Women

# Name Title Fed Rating G B-Year
1 Hunt, Harriet V m ENG 2438 0 1978
2 Houska, Jovanka m ENG 2388 8 1980
3 Ciuksyte, Dagne m ENG 2340 0 1977
4 Chevannes, Sabrina L wm ENG 2173 0 1986
5 Sarakauskiene, Zivile wm ENG 2144 0 1978
6 Jackson, Sheila wg ENG 2140 0 1957
7 Atkins, Rita wm ENG 2130 0 1969
8 Maroroa, Sue wm ENG 2096 0 1991
9 Kalaiyalahan, Akshaya ENG 2092 12 2001
10 Bellin, Jana M wg ENG 2090 0 1947
11 Lauterbach, Ingrid wm ENG 2089 4 1960
12 Hegarty, Sarah N wf ENG 2078 0 1988
13 Kueh, Audrey ENG 2071 0 1987
14 James, Ann-Marie wf ENG 2068 0 1974
15 Regan, Natasha K wm ENG 2051 0 1971
16 Hoare, Amy B ENG 2041 0 1996
17 Pass, Deborah J wf ENG 2030 4 1967
18 Bhatia, Kanwal K wf ENG 2028 0 1981
18 Grigoryan, Meri wf ENG 2028 0 1977
20 Head, Louise ENG 1940 0 1997
21 Summerscale, Claire E ENG 1912 0 1975
22 Martin, Katie A ENG 1889 0 1989
23 Pakhomova, Tuyaara ENG 1863 0 1986
24 Zhu, Yao Yao ENG 1848 0 1984
25 Giles, Yasmin ENG 1838 0 1999
26 Moore, Gillian A ENG 1831 0 1944
27 Norman, Dinah M wc ENG 1820 0 1946
28 Shepherd, Katherine M ENG 1812 3 1997
29 Foster, Chantelle L ENG 1807 0 1996
30 Keen, Cosima ENG 1805 0 1999
31 Wei, Naomi ENG 1781 4 1999
32 Kourtseva, Julie ENG 1760 2 1987
33 Needham, Sabrina ENG 1754 0 1972
34 Varney, Zoe ENG 1747 0 1999
35 Sit, Victoria ENG 1696 15 1998
36 Sainbayar, Anuurai ENG 1676 0 1989
37 Milson, Amy F ENG 1674 0 1995
38 Graham, Cassie M ENG 1643 0 2001
39 Imykshenova, Eugenia ENG 1607 2 1978
40 Wen, Jessica ENG 1600 0 1998
41 Green, Emily ENG 1590 0 2001
42 Sheremetyeva, Elizaveta ENG 1585 0 2001
43 Robson, Caroline J ENG 1573 0 1963
44 Ivanov, Elizabeth ENG 1569 4 2001
45 Gardner, Joan ENG 1566 0 1942
46 Neil, Jennifer ENG 1557 0 1997
47 Jina, Asha ENG 1545 0 2001
48 Weaver, Lauren ENG 1533 5 1999
49 Ressel, Eva ENG 1527 0 2000
50 Archer-Lock, Helen ENG 1518 6 2002
51 Dwarakanathan, Srinidhi ENG 1512 0 2005
52 Boztas, Lana ENG 1495 2 1947
53 Hapeshi, Eleanor ENG 1492 0 1999
54 Mihajlova, Diana ENG 1485 6 1958
55 Gelain-Sohn, Emmanuelle ENG 1482 5 2003
56 Somton, Anita ENG 1464 0 2004
57 Raghavendra, Mahima ENG 1451 0 2003
58 Goldsmith, Jennifer ENG 1448 5 1949
59 Purvis, Anna ENG 1422 0 2000
60 Ragavan, Soumiya ENG 1391 2 2000
61 Davidson, Laura ENG 1384 0 2003
62 Rahulan, Thivyaa ENG 1381 0 2004
62 Strong, Zoe ENG 1381 0 1998
64 Gee-Grant, Aimee ENG 1378 10 2004
65 Chadwick, Susan E ENG 1370 0 1950
66 Johnson, Elizabeth ENG 1364 12 2004
67 Imykshenova, Alina ENG 1257 6 2003
68 Hansen, Annalise ENG 1183 1 2004
69 Haridas, Navieinaah ENG 1154 0 2006
70 Hastilow, Sarah ENG 1152 0 1966
71 Murali, Pooja ENG 1084 9 2002

ChessBase reports shows how a player rose from 1949 to 2517 in three months! http://en.chessbase.com/post/january-20 ... ry-results

Chris Rice wrote:ChessBase reports shows how a player rose from 1949 to 2517 in three months! http://en.chessbase.com/post/january-20 ... ry-results

... and some people still complain that the Elo system does not not track juniors' progression in a timely fashion

Chris Rice wrote:ChessBase reports shows how a player rose from 1949 to 2517 in three months! http://en.chessbase.com/post/january-20 ... ry-results

Well all the points I"m losing have to be ending up somewhere.

Paolo Casaschi wrote: ... and some people still complain that the Elo system does not not track juniors' progression in a timely fashion

The overshoot effect becomes more visible with K=40, notwithstanding that it's more difficult with monthly rating lists.

What seems to have happened is that you play 20 games in a month, which is possible with back to back tournaments and then play a field around your own rating but score 15 from 20. That's a plus 5 score which a K=40 rule transforms into a 200 Elo point change. At the level he's now reached that becomes unrepeatable as the K drops to 10, once past 2400.

He shouldn't have been on k=40 anyway. One event was reported very late, causing his rating to stay below 2300. We really should be rejecting late reports, but that would also lead to complaints.

While the rating leap is clearly too great, this is not a weak player. In the European U14s, where I don't think it can be argued that the field was generally overrated, he scored 7/9 against 2206 opposition. He may well grow into his rating.

I can't see that the early signs of these advanced K-factors are particularly promising, which is unsurprising considering the ratings at the lower levels have become essentially random. It is a solution to correct a short term problem of under-rated players, it can't work to correct the permanent situation of hundreds or thousands of new such players entering the system every year.

It also only attempts to mitigate one side of the problem - the under-rated juniors, not the ongoing under-rating of adult players who play them. It is also undermined by juniors spending a lot of time playing each other and giving the points back.

Whilst it would make the system more complicated there must be a case for dramatically reducing the K-factors of anyone (including juniors) in games where they play other juniors. This would essentially recognise the unreliability of junior ratings which are just jumping all over the place like yo-yos. Would mitigate to some extent the obvious deflation (certainly in England) going on amongst adult players in the 2100-2300 brackets.

Richard has a good point here. Nick, have any of the simulations and models looked for the possibility of groupings of players experiencing deflation or inflation outside the norms? i.e. the overall deflation and variation may be within acceptable limits, but small groups of players may experience much greater volatility and simulations may not be designed to detect this sort of effect? Populations of players might "yo-yo wildly" to use a colloquial expression.

Looking again at the January 2015 list, I see that Wesley So (2762) is only just behind Nakamura (2776). On the current live ratings, So (2781) has overtaken Nakamura (2776):

http://ratings.fide.com/top.phtml?list=men
http://www.2700chess.com/

[Not sure why the URL for the FIDE top 100 has 'list=men'!!, thankfully it does include Hou Yifan at number 70 in the world, with Judit Polgar still there at number 67 - how long will it take for her to drop off the lists due to inactivity after her retirement? Did Hou Yifan become the women's number one when Polgar retired, or will it not be until Polgar's rating list entry goes inactive?]

Does anyone know if Nakamura is playing in any events in January? If not, then So might be the new US number one in February. It will be interesting to see if he and So drive each other on to new heights (I have no idea how seriously they both take the 'title' of US number one, though selection for Olympiad board 1 would be a factor to consider).

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
http://www.2700chess.com/

Does anyone know if Nakamura is playing in any events in January?

Again forum laziness, you even put a link where it tells you the answer

Zurich Chess Challenge February 14th. is Nakamura's next I think.

Christopher Kreuzer wrote: Did Hou Yifan become the women's number one when Polgar retired, or will it not be until Polgar's rating list entry goes inactive?

It depends how you want to define it. It isn't totally unlikely that she will go past in the twelve month run off until Polgar's rating disappears. The lists of active players are defined by activity rather than intent.

Alan Walton wrote:

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
http://www.2700chess.com/

Does anyone know if Nakamura is playing in any events in January?

Again forum laziness, you even put a link where it tells you the answer

Thanks! I had seen that list of 'future events' there, but hadn't scrolled down that far for a while... Yes, I was being lazy in not looking it up myself. It wont be the last time either.

Barry Sandercock wrote:Zurich Chess Challenge February 14th. is Nakamura's next I think.

Thanks, Barry. Though following Alan's tip above, I see Nakamura is playing in the Gibraltar Open before then (that would have been my guess, but as Alan said I was too lazy to look it up!). Still, that won't count for the January list as it ends in February, so if So stays ahead in the live ratings, he will be the new US number one in February.

Roger de Coverly wrote:

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:[Did Hou Yifan become the women's number one when Polgar retired, or will it not be until Polgar's rating list entry goes inactive?]

It depends how you want to define it. It isn't totally unlikely that she will go past in the twelve month run off until Polgar's rating disappears. The lists of active players are defined by activity rather than intent.

Oh sure. I was thinking also of when Kasparov retired. That was a clear situation where his inactive rating was for a long time higher than the rating of the active world number one.

[PS. I've fixed your quote in my requote of your post - that seems to break in some people's posts for some reason]