2023 FIDE World Cup Sun 30th Jul 2023 - Thu 24th Aug 2023

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Re: 2023 FIDE World Cup Sun 30th Jul 2023 - Thu 24th Aug 2023

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:17 pm

What is the record in classical chess between the two finalists? And what were the odds on Praggnanandhaa winning at the start of the event?

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Re: 2023 FIDE World Cup Sun 30th Jul 2023 - Thu 24th Aug 2023

Post by Geoff Chandler » Mon Aug 21, 2023 7:33 pm

Hi Chris,

I have no idea about his starting odds, he was seeded 31 so they would have been quite healthy.

He is in the candidates, as is Caruana and Abasov. Fabiano can now relax the weight of not qualifying for the candidates has been lifted. I expect him to do very well at the FIDE Grand Swiss in October. 'AS of August 16, the following players are expected to participate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIDE_Gran ... ament_2023

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Re: 2023 FIDE World Cup Sun 30th Jul 2023 - Thu 24th Aug 2023

Post by Ian Jamieson » Mon Aug 21, 2023 7:45 pm

Geoff Chandler wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 7:33 pm
Hi Chris,

I have no idea about his starting odds, he was seeded 31 so they would have been quite healthy.

He is in the candidates, as is Caruana and Abasov. Fabiano can now relax the weight of not qualifying for the candidates has been lifted. I expect him to do very well at the FIDE Grand Swiss in October. 'AS of August 16, the following players are expected to participate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIDE_Gran ... ament_2023
No English players? Or does it clash with something?

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Re: 2023 FIDE World Cup Sun 30th Jul 2023 - Thu 24th Aug 2023

Post by Roger de Coverly » Mon Aug 21, 2023 7:48 pm

Ian Jamieson wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 7:45 pm
No English players? Or does it clash with something?
Do any qualify? It's possible the handful that may have declined their invitation. There may still be organiser wildcards to go.

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Re: 2023 FIDE World Cup Sun 30th Jul 2023 - Thu 24th Aug 2023

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Mon Aug 21, 2023 8:04 pm

Howell and Adams were in the world's top 100 in June 2023, so would have qualified for it, but may have decided not to take up their places.

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Re: 2023 FIDE World Cup Sun 30th Jul 2023 - Thu 24th Aug 2023

Post by Geoff Chandler » Mon Aug 21, 2023 8:20 pm

I see 'Up to 5 players nominated by the organizer (Isle of Man International Chess Limited)'

So hopefully a regular from here will get to go and keep us updated on whats what.

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Post by IM Jack Rudd » Mon Aug 21, 2023 8:24 pm

A regular from here certainly is going, but I'll be on the other side of the desk. Probably arbiting the amateur sections like I was last time.

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Re: 2023 FIDE World Cup Sun 30th Jul 2023 - Thu 24th Aug 2023

Post by Geoff Chandler » Mon Aug 21, 2023 8:43 pm

Good Jack, You can keep us up to date with what's what (though you should be playing...I've seen these players games, they are not very good, enter and chisel your way into the candidates.)

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Re: 2023 FIDE World Cup Sun 30th Jul 2023 - Thu 24th Aug 2023

Post by LawrenceCooper » Tue Aug 22, 2023 2:26 pm

Abasov with white beats Caruana in 26 moves!

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Re: 2023 FIDE World Cup Sun 30th Jul 2023 - Thu 24th Aug 2023

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Tue Aug 22, 2023 3:06 pm

LawrenceCooper wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 2:44 pm
Goryachkina wins the second rapid tie-break game in 105 moves to win the women's world cup.
Salimova had a fairly simple way to force a draw around move 60, missed it and paid the penalty.
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Re: 2023 FIDE World Cup Sun 30th Jul 2023 - Thu 24th Aug 2023

Post by NickFaulks » Tue Aug 22, 2023 3:36 pm

Geoff Chandler wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 8:43 pm
Good Jack, You can keep us up to date with what's what (though you should be playing...I've seen these players games, they are not very good, enter and chisel your way into the candidates.)
I was going to query that, but after seeing Caruana play 23...Qb4 I'm not so sure. Aren't these guys supposed to have a sense of danger?
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Re: 2023 FIDE World Cup Sun 30th Jul 2023 - Thu 24th Aug 2023

Post by Mick Norris » Tue Aug 22, 2023 4:06 pm

By this stage of the World Cup, isn't everyone just knackered?
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Re: 2023 FIDE World Cup Sun 30th Jul 2023 - Thu 24th Aug 2023

Post by LawrenceCooper » Tue Aug 22, 2023 4:28 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Tue Aug 22, 2023 4:06 pm
By this stage of the World Cup, isn't everyone just knackered?
I suspect so, especially those who have had the additional stress of tie-breaks.

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Re: 2023 FIDE World Cup Sun 30th Jul 2023 - Thu 24th Aug 2023

Post by Tim Harding » Tue Aug 22, 2023 5:30 pm

You rarely see Caruana so thoroughly crushed as he was today by Abasov.
Apparently White's 22nd and 23rd were inaccurate and Black would have been fine with 23...f5 but instead he blundered.



If 26...Nd5 White ignores the threat to his queen and breaks through by 27 f6
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Re: 2023 FIDE World Cup Sun 30th Jul 2023 - Thu 24th Aug 2023

Post by LawrenceCooper » Tue Aug 22, 2023 6:26 pm

Tim Harding wrote:
Tue Aug 22, 2023 5:30 pm
You rarely see Caruana so thoroughly crushed as he was today by Abasov.
Apparently White's 22nd and 23rd were inaccurate and Black would have been fine with 23...f5 but instead he blundered.



If 26...Nd5 White ignores the threat to his queen and breaks through by 27 f6
There are a couple of nice sacrificial finishes after 26...exf5 27 Nf6+ gxf6 28 Qxh6+ and 27... Kh8 28 Qxh6+