2024 Candidates qualification revised process

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Re: 2024 Candidates qualification revised process

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:13 pm

You can just see a slew of lawsuits on the horizon, can't you? :roll:

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Re: 2024 Candidates qualification revised process

Post by LawrenceCooper » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:54 pm

Alireza wins game 1 of match 2 as his opponent resigns, with seconds left on his clock, believing that Alireza had a winning tactic. For those who can speak French (or even those that don't) the commentary at the end of the game (around 3 hours 30) is entertaining.
https://www.chartrestv.fr/fr/8-videos/5 ... ere-partie

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Re: 2024 Candidates qualification revised process

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:57 pm

So is his live rating rising quickly enough to achieve the desired result? I presume you would not go to the effort of arranging such a series of matches without the end result being what you want. At what point will FIDE confirm whether or not they will rate the matches?

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Re: 2024 Candidates qualification revised process

Post by Mick Norris » Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:07 pm

2754.9 after today's win; if he wins the next game he goes to 2756.7, with So on 2757.4
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Re: 2024 Candidates qualification revised process

Post by LawrenceCooper » Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:11 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:57 pm
So is his live rating rising quickly enough to achieve the desired result? I presume you would not go to the effort of arranging such a series of matches without the end result being what you want. At what point will FIDE confirm whether or not they will rate the matches?
If his live rating at the end of the matches remains below Wesley's they may allow them to be rated. If it's above then they have a decision to make. A further twist could be if (for whatever reason) the results aren't rated until the February list.

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Re: 2024 Candidates qualification revised process

Post by LawrenceCooper » Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:28 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:07 pm
2754.9 after today's win; if he wins the next game he goes to 2756.7, with So on 2757.4
2756.7 following his 33 move win with black.

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Re: 2024 Candidates qualification revised process

Post by Mick Norris » Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:51 am

He plays white v Fedorchuk this afternoon, a win would take his rating above So; presumably he plays him tomorrow as black too, and will need to win that to avoid his rating dropping back below So
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Re: 2024 Candidates qualification revised process

Post by Mick Norris » Thu Dec 21, 2023 11:48 am

Maghsoodloo finishes on 2740 so is out of the running for the rating spot
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Re: 2024 Candidates qualification revised process

Post by LawrenceCooper » Thu Dec 21, 2023 12:55 pm

Wikipedia has updated the live circuit scores:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_FIDE_Circuit

Gukesh 87.36
Giri 84.31
So 83.40
Erigaisi 81.24

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Re: 2024 Candidates qualification revised process

Post by Mick Norris » Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:17 pm

If the figures are correct, then Giri needs at least 13.52 points at the World Rapid or Blitz to improve his score to match Gukesh, more if Gukesh further improves his score
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Re: 2024 Candidates qualification revised process

Post by LawrenceCooper » Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:25 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:17 pm
If the figures are correct, then Giri needs at least 13.52 points at the World Rapid or Blitz to improve his score to match Gukesh, more if Gukesh further improves his score
I think there is an error lower down. So's score is listed below Arjun (who is showing as finishing second). I don't know if that means that Gukesh's score is higher than it should be but will leave it to those in the know to work it all out.

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Re: 2024 Candidates qualification revised process

Post by Mick Norris » Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:57 pm

Yes, there's an error there

I reckon Giri needs either top 4 in the Rapid or top 2 in the Blitz at a very rough calculation
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Re: 2024 Candidates qualification revised process

Post by LawrenceCooper » Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:38 pm

Alireza wins as black to move to 2758.9

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Re: 2024 Candidates qualification revised process

Post by Mick Norris » Thu Dec 21, 2023 8:54 pm

LawrenceCooper wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 12:55 pm
Wikipedia has updated the live circuit scores:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_FIDE_Circuit

Gukesh 87.36
Giri 84.31
So 83.40
Erigaisi 81.24
Confirmed by FIDE presumably as Gukesh first on tiebreak
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Re: 2024 Candidates qualification revised process

Post by Mick Norris » Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:19 am

Mick Norris wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:57 pm
Yes, there's an error there

I reckon Giri needs either top 4 in the Rapid or top 2 in the Blitz at a very rough calculation
Chess by the numbers has Erigaisi needing to win the Rapid; Giri needs to win the Blitz or come in the top 3 in the Rapid; on rating, you wouldn't favour either

It would seem weird if a Candidates place was clinched with a performance at a faster time control
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