Presidential Election 2022

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Re: Presidential Election 2022

Post by NickFaulks » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:26 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
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Stuart Fancy is in Milton Keynes this weekend, playing for Hackney in Division 3 of the 4NCL.
But unfortunately Vishy isn't.
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Re: Presidential Election 2022

Post by David Sedgwick » Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:37 am

A debate amongst Andrey Baryshpolets, Arkady Dvorkovich and Bachar Kouatly, three of the four candidates for FIDE President, can be viewed at https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1538476175. It was hosted by the Association of Chess Professionals.

This does not seem to have been very widely publicised. I was alerted to it by an announcement at \the Team Ukraine club on Chess.com.

I was not greatly impressed by any of the three of them, but that is just my personal opinion.

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Re: Presidential Election 2022

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sat Jul 23, 2022 7:56 am

David Sedgwick wrote:
Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:37 am
A debate amongst Andrey Baryshpolets, Arkady Dvorkovich and Bachar Kouatly, three of the four candidates for FIDE President, can be viewed at https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1538476175. It was hosted by the Association of Chess Professionals.

This does not seem to have been very widely publicised. I was alerted to it by an announcement at \the Team Ukraine club on Chess.com.

I was not greatly impressed by any of the three of them, but that is just my personal opinion.
I followed some of it but not with any great enthusiasm. Kouatly seemed to talk a lot without saying much, Dvorkovich seemed more interested in interrupting Baryshpolets and I learnt little about the latter because he waited for his turn to speak and was then often drowned out.

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Re: Presidential Election 2022

Post by NickFaulks » Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:32 am

LawrenceCooper wrote:
Sat Jul 23, 2022 7:56 am
Dvorkovich seemed more interested in interrupting Baryshpolets and I learnt little about the latter because he waited for his turn to speak and was then often drowned out.
I watched the whole thing and failed to notice a single example of either. Baryshpolets was given every opportunity to speak and took full advantage.

Could you perhaps give some points at which this happened?
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Re: Presidential Election 2022

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:42 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:32 am
LawrenceCooper wrote:
Sat Jul 23, 2022 7:56 am
Dvorkovich seemed more interested in interrupting Baryshpolets and I learnt little about the latter because he waited for his turn to speak and was then often drowned out.
I watched the whole thing and failed to notice a single example of either. Baryshpolets was given every opportunity to speak and took full advantage.

Could you perhaps give some points at which this happened?
Fair point, I've had a listen to some of the earlier footage and you are right that Baryshpolets did get a chance to speak both early on and, even when interrupted, did get the chance to finish his points.

In terms of the point about interrupting:

0:39 He interrupts Baryshpolets
0:54 He interrupts Maria
1:08 He interrupts Yuri
1:09 He interrupts Baryshpolets
1:27 He interrupts Baryshpolets
1:28 He interrupts Baryshpolets

so it was fairer for me to say he interrupted multiple people and not just one. I did query this recurring behaviour with a colleague of yours and was told "It's how politicians work"

From the chat:

1:31:13 Frauenschachexperten: jesus how somehow that agressively can possible run fide
1:31:31Frauenschachexperten:*someone

which I did find a bit harsh.

It may be that this is, in part, due to it being a Zoom call and in person it's easier to know when there is opportunity to speak and when to wait for the speaker to finish.

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Re: Presidential Election 2022

Post by NickFaulks » Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:51 pm

I have heard AD accused of being many things, but never impolite. To be honest, he is as courteous a Russian as I have ever met.
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Re: Presidential Election 2022

Post by JustinHorton » Tue Aug 02, 2022 2:58 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
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Kirsan was clearly seen as a Russian government puppet and yet Sheripov is being nominated by Ukraine.
I always felt that was a ill informed Western myth. Presumably the Ukrainians, who were closer to the action, saw matters in the same light
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Re: Presidential Election 2022

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:38 am

When is this election? Can Nick already forecast the result?

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Re: Presidential Election 2022

Post by David Sedgwick » Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:29 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:38 am
When is this election? Can Nick already forecast the result?
1. Tomorrow, Saturday 7th August at the FIDE General Assembly. The meeting starts at 0430 BST.

2. I don't know about Nick, but Nigel Short thinks that he can:

https://twitter.com/nigelshortchess/sta ... 4314270720

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Re: Presidential Election 2022

Post by David Sedgwick » Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:16 pm

David Sedgwick wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:29 pm
Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:38 am
When is this election? Can Nick already forecast the result?
1. Tomorrow, Saturday 7th August at the FIDE General Assembly. The meeting starts at 0430 BST.

2. I don't know about Nick, but Nigel Short thinks that he can:

https://twitter.com/nigelshortchess/sta ... 4314270720
You can watch the General Assembly meeting live at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm3XenS5Po8.

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Re: Presidential Election 2022

Post by NickFaulks » Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:20 am

Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:38 am
When is this election? Can Nick already forecast the result?
Presentations starting now. After drawing of lots, Baryshpolets goes first. Limited to 15 minutes each.

My forecast is that this will just go to a second round, but I am nowhere near as close to these things as previously. It seems clear that Dvorkovich will win easily.

AB's presentation is so far entirely about the Ukraine war.
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Re: Presidential Election 2022

Post by NickFaulks » Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:52 am

The Wilkinson / Kouatly presentation really does have to be viewed to be believed, total joke. But it turns out at the end this is because he is doing a Short and withdrawing - not explicitly in favour of Baryshpolets, although it sounded that way, since he did mention the Ukraine war.

edit : and I think I heard him say Dvorkovich had to go, which I suppose is clear enough!
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Re: Presidential Election 2022

Post by David Sedgwick » Sun Aug 07, 2022 7:44 am

NickFaulks wrote:
Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:20 am
My forecast is that this will just go to a second round ...
Wrong, of course, since Kouatly withdrew. :lol:

Voting in progress between the two remaining candidates.

My final prediction: Two to one majority for Dvorkovich.

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Re: Presidential Election 2022

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sun Aug 07, 2022 7:49 am

I heard PHN mention about US sanctions being applied to a Russian organisation that Dvorkevich was or is involved with but didn't catch the name so wasn't sure of its significance.

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Re: Presidential Election 2022

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sun Aug 07, 2022 7:58 am

NickFaulks wrote:
Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:52 am
The Wilkinson / Kouatly presentation really does have to be viewed to be believed, total joke.
The Wilkinson introduction of Kouatly sounded more like something you might hear in a WWE ring!

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