Presidential Election 2022

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Re: Presidential Election 2022

Post by Angus French » Sun Aug 07, 2022 8:23 am

LawrenceCooper wrote:
Sun Aug 07, 2022 7:58 am
NickFaulks wrote:
Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:52 am
The Wilkinson / Kouatly presentation really does have to be viewed to be believed, total joke.
The Wilkinson introduction of Kouatly sounded more like something you might hear in a WWE ring!
I thought the same!

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Re: Presidential Election 2022

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:03 am

157-16 in favour of Dvorkevich if I heard correctly.

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Re: Presidential Election 2022

Post by NickFaulks » Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:03 am

AD wins 157 - 16. Wow!
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Re: Presidential Election 2022

Post by David Sedgwick » Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:09 am

NickFaulks wrote:
Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:03 am
AD wins 157 - 16. Wow!
Yes, a landslide for Vladimir Putin. What a disaster for FIDE.

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Re: Presidential Election 2022

Post by JustinHorton » Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:51 am

Well you might be right, but FIDE member nations seem to think otherwise by a margin of nearly ten to one
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Re: Presidential Election 2022

Post by Paul Cooksey » Sun Aug 07, 2022 11:07 am

LawrenceCooper wrote:
Sun Aug 07, 2022 7:49 am
I heard PHN mention about US sanctions being applied to a Russian organisation that Dvorkevich was or is involved with but didn't catch the name so wasn't sure of its significance.
Skolkovo Foundation. In fairness, it is an important thing. As we have observed previously, FIDE President is arguably a step down for Dvorkovich.

I found PHN much more persuasive than apparently the average FIDE delegate did, at least in respect of transparency. But he did not quite have me here. I see the argument Dvorkovich had only just left the scene of a crime before the police arrived, and it looks suspicious. But as far as I know, he is still is not on a sanctions list.

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Re: Presidential Election 2022

Post by NickFaulks » Sun Aug 07, 2022 12:33 pm

Paul Cooksey wrote:
Sun Aug 07, 2022 11:07 am
but as far as I know, he is still is not on a sanctions list.
I suppose that has to matter, but I really don't see why the US Treasury should have power of veto over who is FIDE President.
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Re: Presidential Election 2022

Post by Mick Norris » Sun Aug 07, 2022 12:47 pm

JustinHorton wrote:
Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:51 am
Well you might be right, but FIDE member nations seem to think otherwise by a margin of nearly ten to one
Maybe indicates that we should stay out of FIDE politics
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Re: Presidential Election 2022

Post by David Sedgwick » Sun Aug 07, 2022 3:09 pm

David Sedgwick wrote:
Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:09 am
Yes, a landslide for Vladimir Putin. What a disaster for FIDE.
JustinHorton wrote:
Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:51 am
Well you might be right, but FIDE member nations seem to think otherwise by a margin of nearly ten to one
David Sedgwick (ten years ago) wrote:
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Never underestimate the foolhardiness of the FIDE General Assembly.

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Re: Presidential Election 2022

Post by NickFaulks » Sun Aug 07, 2022 3:44 pm

I think the general feeling in the room was that Baryshpolets didn't really want to do the job, or have any idea how to, and PHN certainly not. Just wished to give Russia a black eye.

Many federations with impeccable anti-Russian credentials voted for Dvorkovich.
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Re: Presidential Election 2022

Post by David Sedgwick » Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:00 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
Sun Aug 07, 2022 3:44 pm
Many federations with impeccable anti-Russian credentials voted for Dvorkovich.
If they couldn't bring themselves to vote for Baryshpolets, could they not at least have abstained?

From Andrey Filatov, President. Russian Chess Federation:

"Congratulations to Arkady Dvorkovich on a brilliant win. The Russian candidate was supported by a record number of delegates, showing that there's no isolation of Russia in the world."

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Re: Presidential Election 2022

Post by Paul Cooksey » Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:28 pm

Is it a secret ballot, or will we see detailed results?

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Re: Presidential Election 2022

Post by JustinHorton » Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:28 pm

David Sedgwick wrote:
Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:00 pm

If they couldn't bring themselves to vote for Baryshpolets, could they not at least have abstained?
There's 157 federations chose not to abstain, is it not possible to ask non-rhetorically why they did not do so?
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Re: Presidential Election 2022

Post by Angus French » Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:14 pm

From what I saw of the speeches (and from Peter Nielsen on Twitter) the Baryshpolets/Nielsen campaign was overwhelmingly negative and didn't, dare I say, give sufficient indication of competence to run FIDE. The Dvorkovich/Anand ticket presumably benefitted from having the much-respected Anand as candidate deputy President, the more so with a well-run Olympiad taking place in Anand's home country. It's telling, isn't it, that a ticket fronted by two Europeans polled only 16 votes when there are, I make it, 56 European member federations (or 54 if Russia and Belarus are discounted)?

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Re: Presidential Election 2022

Post by Brian Towers » Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:39 am

NickFaulks wrote:
Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:03 am
AD wins 157 - 16. Wow!
Presumably the reward for being the first president for about 50 years to be both competent and not corrupt to the core. FIDE federations doing what democracy demands and voting their best interests.
Ah, but I was so much older then. I'm younger than that now.

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