It is a secret ballot.Paul Cooksey wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:28 pmIs it a secret ballot, or will we see detailed results?
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It doesn't affect the thrust of your post. but I made it 55 (or 53 without Russia and Belarus).Angus French wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:14 pmIt's telling, isn't it, that a ticket fronted by two Europeans polled only 16 votes when there are, I make it, 56 European member federations (or 54 if Russia and Belarus are discounted)?
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I took the Europe list from https://fide.com/directory/member-federations and pasted it into a spreadsheet to count.David Sedgwick wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:47 amIt doesn't affect the thrust of your post. but I made it 55 (or 53 without Russia and Belarus).Angus French wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:14 pmIt's telling, isn't it, that a ticket fronted by two Europeans polled only 16 votes when there are, I make it, 56 European member federations (or 54 if Russia and Belarus are discounted)?
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I think the story of this election will be that, even after the Russian invasion of Ukraine made Dvorkovich look beatable, no even remotely serious challengers came along to have a go. I confess that I still find this quite remarkable.
Kouatly and Wilkinson are certainly big enough names, but they did no campaigning and any ideas that they were taking it seriously were dispelled yesterday.
Kouatly and Wilkinson are certainly big enough names, but they did no campaigning and any ideas that they were taking it seriously were dispelled yesterday.
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Doesn't an abstention imply that you are indifferent between the candidates?JustinHorton wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:28 pmThere's 157 federations chose not to abstain, is it not possible to ask non-rhetorically why they did not do so?
I suppose it might have been seen as a coded message "We absolutely want AD to win but we oppose the invasion of Ukraine". Nearly everyone took the more straightforward course of simply voting for the candidate they wanted to win.
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Thanks, I thought so but was not sure.David Sedgwick wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:40 amIt is a secret ballot.Paul Cooksey wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:28 pmIs it a secret ballot, or will we see detailed results?
Seven countries nominated Baryshpolets; New Zealand, Lithuania, South Sudan, England, Curacao, Norway, Netherlands and four more declared support Germany, Poland, Austria and Ukraine.
If they all voted for him, and pulling five names out of a hat, Latvia, Estonia, Finland, Denmark, Sweden, also did, then that would mean no one else including most of Western Europe. That is really remarkable.
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I seriously doubt that.
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Re GM Short's efforts to get Scotland et al booted out, AD has just stated that he is firmly opposed. Given yesterday's massive mandate, I'd say that is that.
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Malcolm Pein on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TelegraphChess/stat ... 3022381056.NickFaulks wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:32 amRe GM Short's efforts to get Scotland et al booted out, AD has just stated that he is firmly opposed. Given yesterday's massive mandate, I'd say that is that.
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In that case, you will indeed have one too many. You will have included the Isle of Man, which is an Affiliated Organisation, not a Member Federation.Angus French wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 6:41 amI took the Europe list from https://fide.com/directory/member-federations and pasted it into a spreadsheet to count.David Sedgwick wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:47 amIt doesn't affect the thrust of your post. but I made it 55 (or 53 without Russia and Belarus).
I used the list at https://handbook.fide.com/chapter/D0102, which I think is definitive.
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Does anyone have any background on this motion? What was the reasoning, and why were Papua New Guinea involved?NickFaulks wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:32 amRe GM Short's efforts to get Scotland et al booted out, AD has just stated that he is firmly opposed. Given yesterday's massive mandate, I'd say that is that.
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Enyonam Fumey would have provided serious opposition, had he made it to the starting line. Unfortunately, whoever was responsible in his team failed to secure a nomination from a European Federation.NickFaulks wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 6:54 amI think the story of this election will be that, even after the Russian invasion of Ukraine made Dvorkovich look beatable, no even remotely serious challengers came along to have a go. I confess that I still find this quite remarkable.
Kouatly and Wilkinson are certainly big enough names, but they did no campaigning and any ideas that they were taking it seriously were dispelled yesterday.
Perhaps that demonstrates your point.
I don't think Fumey would have won. However, my prediction of a two to one majority for Dvorkovich might have been more accurate than it proved to be with Baryshpolets.
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New members of FIDE have to be members of the UN or of the IOC. The motion was an attempt to make that retrospective, with catastrophic consequences for the British Isles Federations and some others.jholyhead wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:32 amDoes anyone have any background on this motion? What was the reasoning, and why were Papua New Guinea involved?NickFaulks wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:32 amRe GM Short's efforts to get Scotland et al booted out, AD has just stated that he is firmly opposed. Given yesterday's massive mandate, I'd say that is that.
That PNG took the lead on this was substantially due to personality clashes.
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Thanks, DavidDavid Sedgwick wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:40 amNew members of FIDE have to be members of the UN or of the IOC. The motion was an attempt to make that retrospective, with catastrophic consequences for the British Isles Federations and some others.jholyhead wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:32 amDoes anyone have any background on this motion? What was the reasoning, and why were Papua New Guinea involved?NickFaulks wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:32 amRe GM Short's efforts to get Scotland et al booted out, AD has just stated that he is firmly opposed. Given yesterday's massive mandate, I'd say that is that.
That PNG took the lead on this was substantially due to personality clashes.
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Nigel was sent on missions to sign up more members for FIDE. These were often overseas territories of somewhere else, some being British overseas territories,