Carlsen v Nepomniatchi 2021 World Championship

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Re: Carlsen v Nepomniatchi 2021 World Championship

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Fri Nov 26, 2021 1:02 pm

Same happened on chessbomb, so it's presumably a live board issue.

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Post by IM Jack Rudd » Fri Nov 26, 2021 1:02 pm

Looking at the position at move 16, black seems to have quite a lot for his pawn. Is it enough? Difficult to say.

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Re: Carlsen v Nepomniatchi 2021 World Championship

Post by Roger de Coverly » Fri Nov 26, 2021 1:09 pm

JustinHorton wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:49 pm
Drama as the Chess24 board shows 14...Rfc8 for some minutes before being corrected to 14...Rfb8


Is anyone familiar with Carlsen's idea in the h3 anti-Marshall?
Black is giving up the e pawn in exchange for a Bishop pair and inflicting doubled pawns. Also more or less forcing the queens off.

As far as British games are concerned, I've just found one example, played by Chris Fegan as Black against Adam Hunt in the e2e4 Easter Open at Sunningdale in 2014. There don't seem any examples in this year's TWIC.

(edit) Other examples seem to arise in Under 10 tournaments, where one might assume leaving the e pawn undefended was an oversight. (/edit)
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Re: Carlsen v Nepomniatchi 2021 World Championship

Post by JustinHorton » Fri Nov 26, 2021 1:33 pm

IM Jack Rudd wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 1:02 pm
Same happened on chessbomb, so it's presumably a live board issue.
17...Rd8 has apparently been played although the live boards are showing 17...Rc8
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Post by Chris Goodall » Fri Nov 26, 2021 1:51 pm

Deep Draw 12 says 0.00.
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Post by John Upham » Fri Nov 26, 2021 1:53 pm

Does anyone know what the "added value" is of the two allegedly assisting David Howell and Jovanka Houska?
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Post by Mick Norris » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:26 pm

Draw agreed
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Re: Carlsen v Nepomniatchi 2021 World Championship

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:44 pm

IM Jack Rudd wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 1:02 pm
Looking at the position at move 16, black seems to have quite a lot for his pawn. Is it enough? Difficult to say.
It was, and tbh was always likely to be.
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Re: Carlsen v Nepomniatchi 2021 World Championship

Post by MJMcCready » Fri Nov 26, 2021 5:27 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:30 pm
MJMcCready wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:11 am
How did this come about?
I would suggest it's to avoid any suggestions that someone in the audience was able to signal the players.
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Re: Carlsen v Nepomniatchi 2021 World Championship

Post by MJMcCready » Fri Nov 26, 2021 5:28 pm

John Upham wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 1:53 pm
Does anyone know what the "added value" is of the two allegedly assisting David Howell and Jovanka Houska?
DO you mean Williams and the Norwegian guy?

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Re: Carlsen v Nepomniatchi 2021 World Championship

Post by James Toon » Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:30 pm

I watched the game on the Jon Speelman channel on Lichess. Interesting commentary from a very nice bloke.

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Post by Chris Goodall » Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:57 pm

I've now inspected the rest of the game and determined that Carlsen will win 3-0 in 13 games.
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Re: Carlsen v Nepomniatchi 2021 World Championship

Post by NickFaulks » Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:33 pm

Chris Goodall wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:57 pm
I've now inspected the rest of the game and determined that Carlsen will win 3-0 in 13 games.
I disagree, marking this game as a small moral victory for Nepo. Yes, as White he fell into the sort of position where we have come to expect Carlsen to treat other top players as beginners, but that didn't happen.
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Re: Carlsen v Nepomniatchi 2021 World Championship

Post by MJMcCready » Sat Nov 27, 2021 6:22 am

In the post-match interview, I got the impression that Carlsen was a bit annoyed with himself.

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Re: Carlsen v Nepomniatchi 2021 World Championship

Post by Andy Howie » Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:27 am

MJMcCready wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:11 am
And if I may ask also, why do we have screens separating the players from the audience at the venue now? It seems to be the trend nowadays. How did this come about?
Twofold, the stage area is soundproofed. You can barely hear the audience applauding from the stage. To do that you need a some way the audience can see, hence the glass. The glass is such that you can see through it clearly from the audience side but is very obscured from the stage side (helped with the lighting).

On the board issue, yes we had a problem, the board was switched out overnight.

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