Qualifying for 2022 Candidates

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Re: Qualifying for 2022 Candidates

Post by Mick Norris » Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:49 pm

Looks like it is:
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Re: Qualifying for 2022 Candidates

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Wed Dec 22, 2021 3:05 pm

So has only beaten Carlsen once in classical chess, no?

Fair point about Ding, as I have mentioned myself recently.
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Re: Qualifying for 2022 Candidates

Post by Chris Rice » Tue Dec 28, 2021 4:20 pm

Just announced on Chess.com that the Candidates tournament will be in Madrid, June 2022 sponsored by the Scheinburg family.

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Re: Qualifying for 2022 Candidates

Post by Chris Rice » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:05 am

An article in Kiratas with more information on the Candidates being held in Madrid and the Scheinberg family involvement, a lot of which has been covered in the Isle of Man tournaments.

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Re: Qualifying for 2022 Candidates

Post by JustinHorton » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:15 am

Chris Rice wrote:
Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:05 am
An article in Kiratas
In what?

Does that look or read like a legitimate news site to you, or does it seem to be some kind of rip-off site, perhaps recycling other sites' articles?

(Like this one, for instance, parts or all of which you may like to run through Google Translate.)
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Re: Qualifying for 2022 Candidates

Post by Chris Rice » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:26 am

I'm more interested in whether you will be reporting from Madrid?

FIDE release on the Candidates with the proposed dates of June 16 - July 7 2022.

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Re: Qualifying for 2022 Candidates

Post by Roger de Coverly » Thu Dec 30, 2021 9:30 am

Chris Rice wrote:
Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:26 am

FIDE releaseo n the Candidates with the proposed dates of June 16 - July 7 2022.

I see chess.com are named as a co-sponsor and organiser.

It's not so long since Agon (with the then tacit agreement of FIDE ?) were in legal battles with major chess sites.

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Re: Qualifying for 2022 Candidates

Post by JustinHorton » Thu Dec 30, 2021 9:34 am

Chris Rice wrote:
Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:26 am
I'm more interested in whether you will be reporting from Madrid?
Probably as easy for you to get there as it is for me
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Re: Qualifying for 2022 Candidates

Post by JustinHorton » Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:06 am

Ding out of Belgrade (and hence, I assume, the Candidates)
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Re: Qualifying for 2022 Candidates

Post by Mick Norris » Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:45 am

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Re: Qualifying for 2022 Candidates

Post by Tim Harding » Mon Feb 28, 2022 11:36 am

Karjakin could be out of the Candidates: the FIDE Ethics Commission might sanction him or, more likely, Spain might refuse him a visa.

https://chess24.com/en/read/news/fide-b ... ess-events

Meanwhile, as has been written elsewhere in this Forum, it will be interesting to see which, if any, of the Russians actually turn up to play in the Belgrade GP due to start tomorrow. We should know within 24 hours.

Vitiugov has, I read somewhere, spoken out against the invasion, so perhaps he will go to Belgrade and not return to Russia afterwards,
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Re: Qualifying for 2022 Candidates

Post by NickFaulks » Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:21 pm

Tim Harding wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 11:36 am
Spain might refuse him a visa.
But then they would surely have to refuse visas to all Russian players. He can hardly be targeted as an oligarch.
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Re: Qualifying for 2022 Candidates

Post by Nick Burrows » Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:32 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:21 pm
But then they would surely have to refuse visas to all Russian players.
A travel ban on all Russians is a possibility.

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Re: Qualifying for 2022 Candidates

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:37 pm

"A travel ban on all Russians is a possibility."

At present, Aeroflot is not allowed to travel to or over EU, for example, and nobody else is allowed to fly over Russia, so that already exists, surely? I don't know how land transport is affected though.

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Re: Qualifying for 2022 Candidates

Post by Tim Harding » Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:11 pm

Kevin Thurlow wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:37 pm
"A travel ban on all Russians is a possibility."

At present, Aeroflot is not allowed to travel to or over EU, for example, and nobody else is allowed to fly over Russia, so that already exists, surely? I don't know how land transport is affected though.
Chess24 says Karjakin is currently in Dubai. At present the only other Russian qualifier for the Candidates is Nepomniachtchi and it is quite likely that no third Russian will qualify from the GP. They would really need to win or be runner-up in Belgrade to have a chance.

I think FIDE and Spain could find a way to facilitate Nepo' (who has made anti-war noises) and bar Karjakin if they really wanted to but I am not sure about the rules to decide the reserve player if somebody drops out.
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