That would give an advantage to people with multiple nationalities.Ian Thompson wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:59 pmIf it was down to me I'd say that to represent a country at anything you'd have to have that country's nationality. Living there wouldn't be enough.
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My view is that if a player moves like this, then as well as the high monetary restrictions on the initial move (at least for titled players), you have to avoid a ping-pong effect where the player moves back the other way. i.e. Make it harder to move back. If, in this case, the situation in Armenia changes, will Aronian decide to move back again? You would expect a period of commitment to his 'new' country, and a delay if he wanted to move again.
More generally, what happens if an Iranian or Israeli (etc.) moves federation, or if some aspect of some other conflict (such as the recent one between Armenia and Azerbaijan) come up - what if that impacts someone's chess federation registration or how chess is played between teams? FIDE need to be aware of various possible issues here (and I am sure they are aware of them).
Also, you don't want to affect 'normal' people who just move country/job and want to play for their new country. So any new restrictions might have to only apply to titled players above a certain level, or who have already represented a country at national level (but how do you define that?).
[I should add here that I am very sympathatic to Aronian as an individual because of the personal adversity he has been through.]
More generally, what happens if an Iranian or Israeli (etc.) moves federation, or if some aspect of some other conflict (such as the recent one between Armenia and Azerbaijan) come up - what if that impacts someone's chess federation registration or how chess is played between teams? FIDE need to be aware of various possible issues here (and I am sure they are aware of them).
Also, you don't want to affect 'normal' people who just move country/job and want to play for their new country. So any new restrictions might have to only apply to titled players above a certain level, or who have already represented a country at national level (but how do you define that?).
[I should add here that I am very sympathatic to Aronian as an individual because of the personal adversity he has been through.]
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It would, but I'm not suggesting that such people could freely switch between who they represent. They'd have to make a choice and then stick with it.NickFaulks wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:14 pmThat would give an advantage to people with multiple nationalities.Ian Thompson wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:59 pmIf it was down to me I'd say that to represent a country at anything you'd have to have that country's nationality. Living there wouldn't be enough.
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Good luck to Levon Aronian. And to hell with the government officials who have disrespected him and his profession. He is right, chess is one of the few areas in which Armenian excellence brings that country to a world stage.
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It is possible that we don't know the full story.Paul McKeown wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:39 pmAnd to hell with the government officials who have disrespected him and his profession.
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would we make a fuss if he wanted to play for England?
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That might depend upon where the 50k came from.
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Peter Doggers has covered the story at https://www.chess.com/news/view/levon-a ... s-st-louis.
He describes the FIDE Transfer Regulations and hints as a decision possibly looming for Nick Faulks.
He describes the FIDE Transfer Regulations and hints as a decision possibly looming for Nick Faulks.
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So he does. An interesting idea which I had not considered.David Sedgwick wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:55 pmHe describes the FIDE Transfer Regulations and hints as a decision possibly looming for Nick Faulks.
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His words are shallow in my view; it’s all about the dollars
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https://en.chessbase.com/post/levon-aro ... for-the-us
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I presume he could still be grieving following the tragic death of his wife.
https://chessbase.in/news/Arianne-Caoil ... -age-of-33
ChessBase Link to his wife's obituary
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I presume he could still be grieving following the tragic death of his wife.
https://chessbase.in/news/Arianne-Caoil ... -age-of-33
ChessBase Link to his wife's obituary
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Do you actually know Lev Aronian?Alan Walton wrote: ↑Sat Feb 27, 2021 3:36 amHis words are shallow in my view; it’s all about the dollars
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I meet Lev Aronian in Gibraltar.David Sedgwick wrote: ↑Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:48 pmDo you actually know Lev Aronian?Alan Walton wrote: ↑Sat Feb 27, 2021 3:36 amHis words are shallow in my view; it’s all about the dollars
He came across as a genuine & very pleasant gentleman.
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With Bernadette Stokes ?
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