Yes, that link doesn't quite seem to be showing what David intended?JustinHorton wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 2:35 pmEhDavid Sedgwick wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 12:31 pm
Please also see my post in the thread at www.ecforum.org.uk/search.php?search_id=active_topics.
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"Set up your attacks so that when the fire is out, it isn't out!" (H N Pillsbury)
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David S's above post is apropos of a statement (in the thread he now links to, below) -
"It is quite clear that the Karlsbad [1911] players were far more prone to severe errors than contemporary players."
And I tend to agree with David's explanation, further above, in this thread despite GM Matt Turner remarking -
Edit - I had to do it again to make sense of reference to a link.
"It is quite clear that the Karlsbad [1911] players were far more prone to severe errors than contemporary players."
And I tend to agree with David's explanation, further above, in this thread despite GM Matt Turner remarking -
Edit - I only changed one letter - ''u' to 'a' in the initial "David". (Honest, guv.)
Edit - I had to do it again to make sense of reference to a link.
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JustinHorton wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 2:35 pmEhDavid Sedgwick wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 12:31 pm
Please also see my post in the thread at www.ecforum.org.uk/search.php?search_id=active_topics.
Sorry, completely the wrong link. I have corrected the original post.Matt Mackenzie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 3:05 pmYes, that link doesn't quite seem to be showing what David intended?
I intended to refer to www.ecforum.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t= ... 83#p260883.
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Whilst these look similar, I think the Karlsbad mistake is much more understandable.
Spielmann (the player a pawn down) initiated an exchange of Rooks which would have led to the simple draw and just missed the King move
In the MVL example, it is the player who is a pawn ahead who initiates the exchange, so what did MVL think Radjabov was up to? With 19 minutes left you would have thought he would give it some consideration and even a moment's thought leads to the conclusion that the immediate exchange loses.
Spielmann (the player a pawn down) initiated an exchange of Rooks which would have led to the simple draw and just missed the King move
In the MVL example, it is the player who is a pawn ahead who initiates the exchange, so what did MVL think Radjabov was up to? With 19 minutes left you would have thought he would give it some consideration and even a moment's thought leads to the conclusion that the immediate exchange loses.
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David Sedgwick wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:35 pm
SNIP
Compare and contrast the following two blunders:
Thanks, Matt & David.Matthew Turner wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:08 pmWhilst these look similar, I think the Karlsbad mistake is much more understandable.
Spielmann (the player a pawn down) initiated an exchange of Rooks which would have led to the simple draw and just missed the King move
In the MVL example, it is the player who is a pawn ahead who initiates the exchange, so what did MVL think Radjabov was up to? With 19 minutes left you would have thought he would give it some consideration and even a moment's thought leads to the conclusion that the immediate exchange loses.
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From another (linked) thread -
Thanks, Geoff, and yes it was a "good spot" by eagle-eyed David S.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2555&start=90#p260957Geoff Chandler wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:47 amI noticed that someone at ChessBomb was trying to defend MVL by saying it was a mouse slip.
Of course these things must always be considered in an online game but in this case that is not really an option.
You cannot 'mouse slip' the Rook to anywhere but Rxg5.
It was just an online boo-boo by MVL. It happens, the coincidence in the position from Carlsbad 1907 makes it entertaining. Good spot.
The good news regarding MVL's 'mouse slip', this is becoming so notorious somebody somewhere will not (or should not) make the same mistake.
Thanks, Geoff, and yes it was a "good spot" by eagle-eyed David S.