FIDE Online Olympiad 22 July to 30 August 2020

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Re: FIDE Online Olympiad 22 July to 30 August 2020

Post by LawrenceCooper » Fri Aug 28, 2020 6:49 pm

Azerbaijan & Poland go to an armageddon game.

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Re: FIDE Online Olympiad 22 July to 30 August 2020

Post by LawrenceCooper » Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:24 pm

LawrenceCooper wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 6:49 pm
Azerbaijan & Poland go to an armageddon game.
Poland through after an incident packed armageddon game between Socko & Mammadzada.

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Re: FIDE Online Olympiad 22 July to 30 August 2020

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:46 pm

Withdrawing in protest from a knockout is not particularly problematic as these things go; the only participant it harms is you yourself. It's different doing it in an all-play-all or a Swiss, where your action can have knock-on disruptive effects.

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Re: FIDE Online Olympiad 22 July to 30 August 2020

Post by Mick Norris » Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:08 pm

India v Poland tomorrow at I think 10 am UK time

Russia v USA at 5 pm
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Re: FIDE Online Olympiad 22 July to 30 August 2020

Post by Chris Rice » Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:17 pm

The Armageddon is Poland v Azerbaijan was a horror show. Note 44...Ra2?? instead of 44...Nd3+ winning immediately and 59...Ra2+?? missing 59...Nc3+ with a draw and what would have been victory for Azerbaijan.

Socko, Monika (POL) - Mammadzada, Gunay (AZE) 1-0 FIDE Online Olympiad Knockout Stage 2020 round 2-06QF-Armageddon



As we know the Armenians withdrew after their Appeal in the first match against India for losing on time due to a signal failure was turned down. Bit strange this one. Apparently, the basis of the Appeal was that there was nothing wrong with the Armenian Internet signal which was proved to be stable and that it was the Chess.com platform that was defective. However, that was not enough to sway whoever it was on the Appeals panel so the Armenians threw their toys out of the pram and left. Totally agree with Richard and Mick above, they should have accepted the decision and played the second match.

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Re: FIDE Online Olympiad 22 July to 30 August 2020

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:46 am

Poland win the first match of their semi-final:

Board Pairings
Round 1 on 2020/08/29 at 0900 UTC
Bo. 1 India Rtg - 2 Poland Rtg 2 : 4
1.1 GM Anand, Viswanathan 2751 - GM Duda, Jan-Krzysztof 2774 0 - 1
1.2 GM Vidit, Santosh Gujrathi 2636 - GM Wojtaszek, Radoslaw 2662 0 - 1
1.3 GM Koneru, Humpy 2483 - GM Socko, Monika 2321 ½ - ½
1.4 GM Harika, Dronavalli 2450 - IM Cyfka, Karina 2330 ½ - ½
1.5 GM Nihal, Sarin 2418 - IM Janik, Igor 2531 1 - 0
1.6 WIM Divya, Deshmukh 1775 - WIM Sliwicka, Alicja 2059 0 - 1

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Re: FIDE Online Olympiad 22 July to 30 August 2020

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:43 am

India win the second match to force an armageddon match for a place in the final.

Round 2 on 2020/08/29 at 1000 UTC
Bo. 2 Poland Rtg - 1 India Rtg 1½:4½
1.1 GM Duda, Jan-Krzysztof 2774 - GM Anand, Viswanathan 2751 0 - 1
1.2 GM Gajewski, Grzegorz 2515 - GM Vidit, Santosh Gujrathi 2636 0 - 1
1.3 GM Socko, Monika 2321 - GM Koneru, Humpy 2483 0 - 1
1.4 IM Cyfka, Karina 2330 - GM Harika, Dronavalli 2450 0 - 1
1.5 IM Janik, Igor 2531 - GM Praggnanandhaa, R 1781 1 - 0
1.6 WIM Sliwicka, Alicja 2059 - WIM Vantika, Agrawal 1729 ½ - ½

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Re: FIDE Online Olympiad 22 July to 30 August 2020

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:56 am

India are half a point ahead, so why a play off? (I must be missing something, not having read the rules, because I had the same question yesterday).

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Re: FIDE Online Olympiad 22 July to 30 August 2020

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:12 pm

India are through to the final after the armageddon game between Monika Socko & Humpy Koneru.

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Re: FIDE Online Olympiad 22 July to 30 August 2020

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:13 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:56 am
India are half a point ahead, so why a play off? (I must be missing something, not having read the rules, because I had the same question yesterday).
Match points only count. So 3.5-2.5 and 6-0 counts the same.

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Re: FIDE Online Olympiad 22 July to 30 August 2020

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:35 pm

I see - that's quite remarkable!

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Re: FIDE Online Olympiad 22 July to 30 August 2020

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:38 pm

This has probably been covered elsewhere, but how are the armageddon players determined? For example, Poland seemed very keen to field Monika Socko (though I can't think why, since - I think - I once beat her at blitz on lichess) but that can only work if the opposing team is equally happy for their woman player to step up to the plate?

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Re: FIDE Online Olympiad 22 July to 30 August 2020

Post by Chris Rice » Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:50 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:38 pm
This has probably been covered elsewhere, but how are the armageddon players determined? For example, Poland seemed very keen to field Monika Socko (though I can't think why, since - I think - I once beat her at blitz on lichess) but that can only work if the opposing team is equally happy for their woman player to step up to the plate?
I believe the rules are that the Armageddons are determined on the women boards.

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Re: FIDE Online Olympiad 22 July to 30 August 2020

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:52 pm

no, Germany v Hungary?

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Re: FIDE Online Olympiad 22 July to 30 August 2020

Post by Mick Norris » Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:57 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:38 pm
This has probably been covered elsewhere, but how are the armageddon players determined? For example, Poland seemed very keen to field Monika Socko (though I can't think why, since - I think - I once beat her at blitz on lichess) but that can only work if the opposing team is equally happy for their woman player to step up to the plate?
They draw by lots between the Open, Women, Juniors, Girls i.e. you can get 1 of the 4 possibles

Ukraine v China was Junior (Kirill Shevchenko v Liu Yan)
Hungary v Germany was Open (Banusz v Wagner)
Poland v Azerbaijan was Women (Monika Socko v Gunay Mammadzada)
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