Magnus Invitational Online Supertournament

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Re: Magnus Invitational Online Supertournament

Post by Chris Rice » Sat Apr 18, 2020 6:26 pm

Rd 4

Nakamura 1-0 Carlsen and into Armageddon where the clocks appear to have been set up wrong. The game will probably have to be replayed. Magnus in a winning position is very angry. At the moment its 3-2 Carlsen with nobody knowing what's happening.

Firouzja 0.5-0.5 Ding. (Ding 2.5 - Firouzja 1.5)

Update: Looks like Naka was upset because he got a message during the game, he said it wouldn't have changed the result.

Nepo - Caruana and Giri-MVL tomorrow.

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Re: Magnus Invitational Online Supertournament

Post by NigelDonovan » Sat Apr 18, 2020 6:54 pm

Exciting stuff! Two Scheveningens in a row from Carlsen. Has he ever played the Scheveningen move order before, allowing the Keres Attack? (Even though Nakamura didn't play it.)
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Re: Magnus Invitational Online Supertournament

Post by David Sedgwick » Sat Apr 18, 2020 8:41 pm

Chris Rice wrote:
Sat Apr 18, 2020 6:26 pm
Update: Looks like Naka was upset because he got a message during the game, he said it wouldn't have changed the result.
From the official Press Release:

"A blitz game followed which Carlsen won despite Nakamura complaining he had been disturbed during play. The American, however, did not launch an appeal.

He tweeted: “Fun match, very unsatisfactory ending with the arbiter writing a message to me in the middle of the game to abort while I am thinking about playing Kf1 or Kh1! Not that it changes the outcome, but still…”"

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Re: Magnus Invitational Online Supertournament

Post by Richard Bates » Sat Apr 18, 2020 8:50 pm

Apparently the clocks were right on the player boards. But we’re incorrect from the view of the wider audience. Presumably the arbiter hadn’t realised that they could be showing different things and assumed that they were playing under incorrectly set clocks.

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Re: Magnus Invitational Online Supertournament

Post by David Sedgwick » Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:08 pm

Richard Bates wrote:
Sat Apr 18, 2020 8:50 pm
Apparently the clocks were right on the player boards. But we’re incorrect from the view of the wider audience. Presumably the arbiter hadn’t realised that they could be showing different things and assumed that they were playing under incorrectly set clocks.
That of course is very specifically an online issue. In a normal OTB game, an arbiter would immediately go and look at the clock at the board.

I imagine also that the arbiter sought to time his message for the instant when Carlsen moved, but that Nakamura didn't see it until he was in mid thought a few seconds later.

To me this is very reminiscent of problems which we had during the first few British tournaments played with DGTs in 1994.

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Re: Magnus Invitational Online Supertournament

Post by Richard Bates » Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:18 pm

David Sedgwick wrote:
Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:08 pm
Richard Bates wrote:
Sat Apr 18, 2020 8:50 pm
Apparently the clocks were right on the player boards. But we’re incorrect from the view of the wider audience. Presumably the arbiter hadn’t realised that they could be showing different things and assumed that they were playing under incorrectly set clocks.
That of course is very specifically an online issue. In a normal OTB game, an arbiter would immediately go and look at the clock at the board.

I imagine also that the arbiter sought to time his message for the instant when Carlsen moved, but that Nakamura didn't see it until he was in mid thought a few seconds later.

To me this is very reminiscent of problems which we had during the first few British tournaments played with DGTs in 1994.
There was the amusing occasion at the Lloyds bank playoff for PCA intel qualifier when Stewart (i think) set the clocks for an Armageddon game at 5:00 vs 4:00. Hours.

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Re: Magnus Invitational Online Supertournament

Post by David Sedgwick » Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:51 pm

Richard Bates wrote:
Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:18 pm
There was the amusing occasion at the Lloyds bank playoff for PCA intel qualifier when Stewart (i think) set the clocks for an Armageddon game at 5:00 vs 4:00. Hours.
I had forgotten that episode, but now you have reminded me I have a couple of fairly minor corrections.

1. It was 6:00 vs 5:00. Early Armageddons were, or should have been, 6 minutes against 5 minutes.

2. It wasn't Stewart. I won't embarrass the offender by naming him.

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Re: Magnus Invitational Online Supertournament

Post by Nick Burrows » Sat Apr 18, 2020 10:53 pm

Did the extra hour prove beneficial?

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Re: Magnus Invitational Online Supertournament

Post by Leonard Barden » Sat Apr 18, 2020 11:12 pm

David Sedgwick wrote:
Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:08 pm
Richard Bates wrote:
Sat Apr 18, 2020 8:50 pm
Apparently the clocks were right on the player boards. But we’re incorrect from the view of the wider audience. Presumably the arbiter hadn’t realised that they could be showing different things and assumed that they were playing under incorrectly set clocks.
That of course is very specifically an online issue. In a normal OTB game, an arbiter would immediately go and look at the clock at the board.

I imagine also that the arbiter sought to time his message for the instant when Carlsen moved, but that Nakamura didn't see it until he was in mid thought a few seconds later.

I have been informed that "there was some confusion caused by one of the arbiters' Zoom call crashing. Hikaru was distracted by a message not meant for him".
The tournament website does not list the names of any of the officials.....

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Re: Magnus Invitational Online Supertournament

Post by David Sedgwick » Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:12 pm

The report on Chess24 attributes the problem to a bug which has now been fixed.

https://chess24.com/en/read/news/mci-1- ... s-firouzja

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Re: Magnus Invitational Online Supertournament

Post by Chris Rice » Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:34 pm

Day 2

Caruana 2.5 - Nepo 1.5 - Three draws and Caruana won the final game
MVL 3-1 Giri

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Re: Magnus Invitational Online Supertournament

Post by NickFaulks » Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:45 pm

Alireza is just something else! He may not yet be better than Carlsen, but he isn't afraid of him.
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Re: Magnus Invitational Online Supertournament

Post by Chris Rice » Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:31 pm

Day 3

Carlsen 2.5 - Firouzja 1.5
Nakamura 2.5 - Giri 1.5

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Re: Magnus Invitational Online Supertournament

Post by Chris Rice » Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:03 pm

Day 4 and two Armageddons ending up:

Nepo 3-2 MVL
Caruana 3-2 Ding

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Re: Magnus Invitational Online Supertournament

Post by LawrenceCooper » Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:32 am

Chris Rice wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:03 pm
Day 4 and two Armageddons ending up:

Nepo 3-2 MVL
Caruana 3-2 Ding
Both winners also had to win game 4 to force armageddon.