Grand Chess Draw Croatia
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Re: Grand Chess Draw Croatia
Tbf until today even the draw-heavy rounds usually had quite a bit of interesting chess.
Only one rest day for a 12 player event does seem a bit steep, too. Still, one does suspect tomorrow may prove more interesting
Only one rest day for a 12 player event does seem a bit steep, too. Still, one does suspect tomorrow may prove more interesting
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There was a general desire from both players and organisers for meaningful tiebreaks in the event of a tie in the Classic events, so a day has been provided at the end both in Zagreb and in St Louis. To facilitate this, a possible second rest day was sacrificed.Matt Mackenzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:12 pmOnly one rest day for a 12 player event does seem a bit steep, too.
This sort of thing is reviewed by the Grand Chess Tour at the end of each year.
Re: Grand Chess Draw Croatia
Carlsen 1 - 0 MVL Easier than shelling peas. Equals his highest-ever Elo @ 2882
Nepo 0 - 1 Giri Frankly, even I could defend against Nepo's weary frivolous sac. Free point for Giri
Nepo 0 - 1 Giri Frankly, even I could defend against Nepo's weary frivolous sac. Free point for Giri
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Knew that Magnus would be up for this one after what happened earlier this year
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No disrespect, but I woud have Nepo down for 100/100 if he played that sac against you. (Or me)David Robertson wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:33 pm
Nepo 0 - 1 Giri Frankly, even I could defend against Nepo's weary frivolous sac. Free point for Giri
In answer to the poll question that started the thread - there were 41 draws
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I counted 47.Nick Burrows wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:58 pmIn answer to the poll question that started the thread - there were 41 draws
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Whoops, I'll take your word for it, I must have missed a round.NickFaulks wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:32 pmI counted 47.Nick Burrows wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:58 pmIn answer to the poll question that started the thread - there were 41 draws
Re: Grand Chess Draw Croatia
I get 49 draws and 17 decisive out of 66 games in all!?
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I didn't count anything, preferring to get Excel to do it for me. It says 19 wins and 47 draws.NickFaulks wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:32 pmI counted 47.Nick Burrows wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:58 pmIn answer to the poll question that started the thread - there were 41 draws
Re: Grand Chess Draw Croatia
In truth, I wasn't wholly joking. Take a close look at the game.Nick Burrows wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:58 pmNo disrespect, but I would have Nepo down for 100/100 if he played that sac against you. (Or me)David Robertson wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:33 pmNepo 0 - 1 Giri Frankly, even I could defend against Nepo's weary frivolous sac. Free point for Giri
At 13 Nxh7, in any thought experiment involving Nepo v. me, I'm taking the N with 13...Kxh7, and waiting for the coup de grace. Either I'm 100% busted (as I assume); or I'm not certain yet (because I'm too clueless to see the finish). So I play on. Not hard because it's mostly forced for the next eight moves. And even I can see that, if the BK quickly evacuates the K-side, some defensive shelter can be found on d7. Hence, after 21...Kd7, I can breathe again. Now, untangle the Q-side pieces; shift the heavy stuff K-side; nail down e6. Not that difficult to plan or achieve. OK, I grant Nepo would want me to show much more before resigning. But I'd be feeling fairly comfortable.
So what must Giri have thought? That it was Christmas Day, I imagine
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Apparently, he thought "... his opponent probably thought the sacrifice was sound, as the computers show it as good for White before reaching certain depth of analysis." (https://en.chessbase.com/post/zagreb-gr ... 9-round-11), a view which seems to be supported by the asinine computer analysis just above the comment:David Robertson wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:08 pmSo what must Giri have thought? That it was Christmas Day, I imagine
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I'm quite bewildered. I watched the game *live*, and saw 13 Nxh7 go in. Clearly, I carried on watching in such circumstances, watching and analysing. And I couldn't see enough. OK, I'm not Nepo. So what's the trick I've missed? It turns out there's no trick: it's not enough. Later, I saw the computer line given by Ian above, with the scarcely credible Nxh7! (note: !), rightly described by Ian as 'asinine'. My bewilderment therefore stems from Nepo. What on earth was he thinking? The sac barely needs an engine to work out that the BK can run to d7 (I did it!) where after, absent significant positional advantages, W is struggling to prove it. Hence, my initial choice of words to describe the sac: 'weary and frivolous'. I might have said 'superficial'Ian Thompson wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:39 pmApparently, he thought "... his opponent probably thought the sacrifice was sound, as the computers show it as good for White before reaching certain depth of analysis." (https://en.chessbase.com/post/zagreb-gr ... 9-round-11), a view which seems to be supported by the asinine computer analysis just above the comment:David Robertson wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:08 pmSo what must Giri have thought? That it was Christmas Day, I imagine
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I counted 47 draws too, so I don't think my Over/Under of 49.5 was too bad. It'll be interesting to see what happens in the Sinquefield Cup, which is exactly the same tournament but with colours reversed.
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I don't think the GCT Zagreb will be remembered for the draws.
Even without Magnus going on the rampage, a tournament with 6 games a day and some sort of Sofia rules seems quite spectator friendly to me.
Even without Magnus going on the rampage, a tournament with 6 games a day and some sort of Sofia rules seems quite spectator friendly to me.
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Re: Grand Chess Draw Croatia
I think the Carlsen-Aronian draw will be remembered for a while.Paul Cooksey wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:07 amI don't think the GCT Zagreb will be remembered for the draws.