WC Match 2016 - New York 10-30 November
- Carl Hibbard
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Re: WC Match 2016 - New York 10-30 November
My glass of Glenfarclas is proving more interesting than this.
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Re: WC Match 2016 - New York 10-30 November
Perhaps Magnus had a couple to miss this simplification.Carl Hibbard wrote:My glass of Glenfarclas is proving more interesting than this.
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AustinElliott
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Re: WC Match 2016 - New York 10-30 November
Anyone else think 19. Bxe6 looks an odd decision, opening the f-file for Black and giving Black another centre pawn to support a possible ...d5?
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LawrenceCooper
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Re: WC Match 2016 - New York 10-30 November
I was starting to like white's position until he took on e6, probably missing the tactic that black now has after Nd2. The knight on h3 looked a bit offside and white had plans of d4 and maybe even f4 at a later point and a half hour advantage with black seemingly feeling the pressure. Now though all that pressure has evaporated.Carl Hibbard wrote:Perhaps Magnus had a couple to miss this simplification.Carl Hibbard wrote:My glass of Glenfarclas is proving more interesting than this.
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MartinCarpenter
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Re: WC Match 2016 - New York 10-30 November
Jan/Svidler (who I can't find evidence of having been on TMS) seem to think its worse than odd - pretty much a blunder, missing Nd2 Nxf2+ etc.
The only way to dodge an immediate draw is incredibly risky for white, so imagine we're going home early. Carlsen really is struggling with his form, although that's no doubt Karjakin's fault to a fair degree.
Wow. Karjakin wanting to push for more with going d5 or something?
The only way to dodge an immediate draw is incredibly risky for white, so imagine we're going home early. Carlsen really is struggling with his form, although that's no doubt Karjakin's fault to a fair degree.
Wow. Karjakin wanting to push for more with going d5 or something?
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Richard Bates
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Re: WC Match 2016 - New York 10-30 November
And Karjakin didn't play it! Mystifying.
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Roger Lancaster
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I must be dozing but after 20 ... Nd2 21 Nxf2+ Kg2, how exactly was black supposed to extricate his knight?
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Richard Bates
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Re: WC Match 2016 - New York 10-30 November
Nh4+ is an immediate drawRoger Lancaster wrote:I must be dozing but after 20 ... Nd2 21 Nxf2+ Kg2, how exactly was black supposed to extricate his knight?
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LawrenceCooper
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Re: WC Match 2016 - New York 10-30 November
Ironically Qh5 may allow the same tactic but with the added trick of Qf7 which will create some discovered checks winning the queenRichard Bates wrote:Nh4+ is an immediate drawRoger Lancaster wrote:I must be dozing but after 20 ... Nd2 21 Nxf2+ Kg2, how exactly was black supposed to extricate his knight?
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Re: WC Match 2016 - New York 10-30 November
Strewth. They must just have both missed the whole idea.
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Peter Shaw
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Re: WC Match 2016 - New York 10-30 November
Judging from his body language Carlsen saw it after fxe6 (or else why would he spend 10 minutes on Nd2), and couldn't believe his eyes when Karjakin blitzed out d5.
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David Robertson
Re: WC Match 2016 - New York 10-30 November
Judging from my body language, it's time I went to bed. A challenge for you all: you're playing a club game; you've reached move 27; you need to win for your club to win the league. What's the plan?Peter Shaw wrote:Judging from his body language Carlsen saw it after fxe6 (or else why would he spend 10 minutes on Nd2), and couldn't believe his eyes when Karjakin blitzed out d5.
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Re: WC Match 2016 - New York 10-30 November
Try to win the e5 pawn, or try to break through on the queenside with b4 and get my a-pawn up the board.
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Re: WC Match 2016 - New York 10-30 November
The computer thought Qh5 Nxf2+ Kg2 Qf7 would be met by Kg1 for White, with likely an imminent draw via repetition or the ..Nh4+ trick.
Getting back to game, anyone twig why Karjakin has delayed doubling Rooks on the f-file, which would be automatic for us patzers? Or is he just shifting the King to the centre first?
Getting back to game, anyone twig why Karjakin has delayed doubling Rooks on the f-file, which would be automatic for us patzers? Or is he just shifting the King to the centre first?
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David Robertson
Re: WC Match 2016 - New York 10-30 November
And now the BK is centralised [move 29]? I don't see where W gets a kickIM Jack Rudd wrote:Try to win the e5 pawn, or try to break through on the queenside with b4 and get my a-pawn up the board.
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