39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)
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James O'Fee
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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)
And the Seychelles have the same vote as England! I wonder who they're voting for?
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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)
Is 18...Rxf2 an option in Howell's game? 19.Nxf2 Nxg3 20.Qg4 Bxf2+ and Nxh1 or something similar - looks scary to me
without an engine
Ok, apparently not 18...Rf7 played.
without an engine
Ok, apparently not 18...Rf7 played.
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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)
I don't disagree guys it is fun to watch stuff other than GM'S grinding it out. However looking at it from a different view if this is the Olympiad Team and this is meant to be the best of their players then it does not look good for chess in the Seychelles.
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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)
Apparently it is either Scooby Doo or Dora the ExplorerJames O'Fee wrote:And the Seychelles have the same vote as England! I wonder who they're voting for?
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit- so I am constantly told!!!!!
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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)
Mr Micky A is now by the looks of things getting on top of the position in his game- also Davids game does not look quite so bad but expect fireworks somewhere along the line.
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Jonathan Rogers
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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)
No changes yet in England v Germany - we are still looking very good on our two Whites. Less so in the Black games, admittedly. I never liked Gawains' position and now I don't much like Luke's position either, but the KI player does willingly risk getting positions like that
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Jon D'Souza-Eva
Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)
I think Black runs out of pieces to attack with! White's bishops stop nastiness on the d-file and Black's knight hasn't got an obvious way in.Andy Burnett wrote:Is 18...Rxf2 an option in Howell's game? 19.Nxf2 Nxg3 20.Qg4 Bxf2+ and Nxh1 or something similar - looks scary to me
without an engine
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Jon D'Souza-Eva
Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)
I really like Luke's position! Can't he just use his pawn majority on the queenside to cause his opponent some problems? And his bishop on g7 is unhampered by pawns and could provide pressure on b2.Jonathan Rogers wrote:No changes yet in England v Germany - we are still looking very good on our two Whites. Less so in the Black games, admittedly. I never liked Gawains' position and now I don't much like Luke's position either, but the KI player does willingly risk getting positions like that
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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)
The fact that the chess isn't necessarily top quality couldn't be missing the point by more.David Brock wrote:Not being funny if that is the standard at the Olympiad I met well send my six year old daughter for selection for that team and she has only just started to play. It may look fun but not a great advertisement for the standard of chess in the womens event.
Remember Eric the Eel? Eddy the Eagle? That Australian speed-skater who won when everyone in front of him fell over?
Chess isn't all about the GMs who win all the time, so I don't see the problem at all with the fact she's not as good as everyone else. She's presumably enjoying it; so who cares how good she is?
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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)
Even that surely pales in comparison to 1e4 e5 2f4 d5 3fe5 Qh4+ bit of genius that we got from a US Virgin Islands player against John Cooper back in 1974Ola Winfridsson wrote:Hehe, but to be fair, the open section has had its fair share of this in the past too, and it is an Olympiad after all. The following gem is said to have occurred sometime in the late 60s or early 70s: 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4?? b5 5.Bb3 c4 ...David Brock wrote:Not being funny if that is the standard at the Olympiad I met well send my six year old daughter for selection for that team and she has only just started to play. It may look fun but not a great advertisement for the standard of chess in the womens event.benedgell wrote:http://ugra-chess.com/liveboard?gameid=1000080574
g3 and f4 early on, and then Qd4 making sure just about everything can be forked.
Edit: Sorry, benedgell were quicker than me on the same theme. And I agree regarding one the great things about the Olympiad containing players of all levels.
Not to mention the *possibly* apocryphal (but possibly not) story from way back in the 1950s - USSR (top seeds) v Ireland (bottom??) Bronstein has black, answers e4 with c6, and duly wins in short order. After the game his opponent can allegedly be heard inquiring "what was the name of that opening??"
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Jon D'Souza-Eva
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How about her opponents? I get annoyed if I travel thirty miles only to find the other team has filled up the lower boards of their team with people they've dragged off the street.Alex Holowczak wrote: Chess isn't all about the GMs who win all the time, so I don't see the problem at all with the fact she's not as good as everyone else. She's presumably enjoying it; so who cares how good she is?
If I'd spent years playing in tournaments and studying hard, earning the right to represent my country, traveled all the way to Siberia to play the supposed best players from other nations and then found my opponent learnt the moves on the plane flying over and kept on having to be reminded how the horsey thing moves, I'd be livid!
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Ian Kingston
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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)
McShane's 19...g5 looks suspect to me. What's the idea behind it?
(I'm not turning on any engines today unless something gets really tactical.)
(I'm not turning on any engines today unless something gets really tactical.)
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She presumably is one of the best players from her nation.Jon D'Souza-Eva wrote:How about her opponents? I get annoyed if I travel thirty miles only to find the other team has filled up the lower boards of their team with people they've dragged off the street.Alex Holowczak wrote: Chess isn't all about the GMs who win all the time, so I don't see the problem at all with the fact she's not as good as everyone else. She's presumably enjoying it; so who cares how good she is?
If I'd spent years playing in tournaments and studying hard, earning the right to represent my country, traveled all the way to Siberia to play the supposed best players from other nations and then found my opponent learnt the moves on the plane flying over and kept on having to be reminded how the horsey thing moves, I'd be livid!
I think it's a poor attitude, to be honest. It's not about winning, or feeling as though you're getting a good game that's worth the time investment. It's about taking part and enjoying.
Would you rather the Seychelles didn't enter a team?
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Simon Ansell
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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)
...g5 is to stop f4 from White, Black wants to keep the knight on e5. If White is going to move it now it involves making a concession (g3).Ian Kingston wrote:McShane's 19...g5 looks suspect to me. What's the idea behind it?
(I'm not turning on any engines today unless something gets really tactical.)
I like our positions on all four boards right now.
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Ha ha Coward you have been reading too many emails about those bl**dy computer users.Ian Kingston wrote:McShane's 19...g5 looks suspect to me. What's the idea behind it?
(I'm not turning on any engines today unless something gets really tactical.)
So what does your fingers and toes tell you then?
Think,check and then Move !!